#350: Dale & Paul | Digital Communication vs. Real Connection: A Modern Dilemma

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Paul Campbell. Each week, we'll bring to you tips, strategies, and ideas

on how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life, and those you

share with. Ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the

energetic radio. We've got a special one today because this

is episode 300 and 50. Woo

hoo. This is hosted by the School Play, and I'm joined

by the incredible energetic man, Dal Sibodom. Good day, mate. How are you?

Thanks, Paul. Appreciate that, buddy. That's good. Congratulations first and foremost on reaching

350. Thank you very much. I won't lie, you've done the bulk of the work.

I've, I've moseyoned in here at old episode 333, so I'm

up to I'm up to episode 17.

Are you still gonna celebrate my whole show? Here I am Are you still gonna

celebrate I am celebrating 350 like it's my own amazing event. It's a

it's an awesome milestone to get to. And I'll be honest, man. I'm I'm 17

podcasting and, I I'm blown away at the fact that

you've made it to 333 by yourself. It's like it's bloody

it's not easy. Right? It's not it's it's it's not easy. I must admit back

in the day, it was a lot harder. Now there's tools that help

you, obviously, edit it and, create the show notes and

things like that. Previously, like, before I'd sort of we've got a team

now that help us do it. Before that, it was a lot of work. I

can imagine. And, like, as I've spoken about multiple times, finding the way to

write an intro about something like I've battled. Yeah. So that was the

hardest part. The easy part was recording, which I really enjoyed, but then there was

so many layers of it that I didn't enjoy. But yeah, I think just

doing the actual podcast and being proud of it was enough to make me keep

doing it. So Yeah. It's awesome. I, it does It's mind blowing the

the programs you use and the AI we use now, and we simply throw the

recording into it. And then it spits out, obviously, a transcript that spits out the

little nuggets of joy the nuggets of gold. Yeah. And the

videos that link to it. And it's just incredible in it. And Cricket does it

all. It's amazing. So, yeah, for people out there, you put, like, once we've

done this, I put it into a program, and it

does the show notes in 2 minutes, comes up with titles for us, then

it gives you anything you want. Then you put the video into another

platform and it spits out 20 little promo clips you can play on social

media. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing really I have to do now is

editing. Yeah. But think of the content and then talk shit. Yeah. That's right.

And that we can do very well. And that we can do very well. Yeah.

That's why I'm probably enjoying it more than ever because the things that

really, yeah, took away from the joy of doing the podcast had sort of

gone now. And that follow on from last week's episode, you know, that's

there are the power of AI that can be a superpower, and I'm sure

there's programs out there. If you're doing something you don't enjoy, I bet there's a

way you can eliminate that, reduce that time. You just have to look and

explore. Go and play. Go and play with it. Yep. Go and play.

350. Episode 350. I love my stats, you know that. We we

cannot have episode 350. With a couple of stats thrown

in, obviously, you and I love our cricket. We love our footy. We are here

in Australia. And so I just dug up a couple of stats around

350. Yeah. Cricket starts tomorrow. So let's start. That is cricket

season here. There's only a handful of people that have made over 350

runs in an innings. Yep. Do you know who they are? Brian Lara is 1.

Matthew Hayden. Oh, he's on. An older

yep. So they're the 2 ladies. An an older one to jog your memory.

Not for Australia. He's a West Indian. The Garfield Soaps. Yes.

All done. And Brian Lara is the only man who's done it twice. And Brian

Lara of 401. He actually made, 500 Plain

County Cricket for Warwickshire. There you go. Yeah. Mate, that was excellent

cricket knowledge. I just I knew you wouldn't let me down with that one. I'm

like, oh, I'm bringing some cricket stats beside you today. Such a nuffie. Is that

something? Cricket nerd. Love it. But, yeah, mate, hats off to Matty Hayden, 380

at the beginnings. And, obviously, footy, there are numerous players who have played more than

350 games, but there are 2 players who have ended up on 350 games.

Dougie Hawkins? Dougie Hawkins is the one, mate, you are on today. This is insane.

I don't know the other one. I did just I did know that one. I'm

gonna give you a clue. Baggy shorts. Eddie Betts? Yes. Well

done. Gameplay is freaking awesome. I can't believe you got that off my phone.

Oh. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Eddie Betts, Dougie Hawkins, and who doesn't love those 2

smiling assassins, running around their footy field. That's right. Yeah. They're the 2 that mare.

So but, mate, yeah, congratulations on 350 and, let's get

stuck into it. I wanna throw out last week, we did a

couple of questions that I noticed. I wanna I wanna start off with just one

question that I noticed because, we've been using this a little bit in our

workshop. What's your favorite memory of

the podcast so far? So 350 episodes. What's your favorite one? What's your

favorite memory? There's a guy called, Beau

Miles. Don't know if people know him, but he's like this, like, really famous

adventurer. So he does, like, crazy things. Like, he lives out,

sort of Warrigal way. And he's, like, works as a uni lecturer. And, like, he's

only cook, canoeed or kayak to work. So he carries it

and then gets in drains and, or he, like, ate baked

beans only for a month. Or he does anyway, check

out his YouTube channel. What's what's what's his name again? Beau Miles. Okay. He's

he's written books. He's global speaker. Yeah. Anyway, a guy used to,

Bruce here, a guy used to work at. He's best mates of him. So he

goes, sorry. I could probably get his guy, but I didn't know who he was.

Anyway, so I went out to his farm in Jindarik or somewhere like that,

and we did a podcast in his, like, work shed, in his shed,

in the middle of winter. I was freezing. But it was just, it

was, like, a really memorable experience. That's awesome. Yeah. And I think they're the

ones face to face. So, yeah, obviously, I have to put in a lot more

effort and work and planning to get it up and running, but, yeah,

it's, that one just sticks in my memory. It was a really cool experience. Yeah.

That's epic. I love it. You? Well, I've only got 17 to choose

from. I don't have to wrap the memory too much. We've

obviously I I love just you and I having a chat. I love those ones.

But in terms of a favorite guest, oh, man, I'm gonna throw up

Michael Ackerman. A, I know he's one of my closest mates and we and but

we are podcast fiends and we chat podcasts all the time. And I think just

to have, a mate on there who I've divulged so

many podcasts or shared so many podcasts with and had him in the studio. And

it was an epic chat. Yes, sir. It was on a really cool journey. And

I just love the, my favorite memory would be the, the Eric, what do

we call it? Eric Weinen Weinenhammer, the, the the crazy

man that had grit and and will power. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, that nickname stuck

a little with Ace now. So it's become a bit of a favorite memory. Eric,

the old Eric. But yeah, that's probably one of my faves. But on top of

that also, I loved, on a personal, I think Conan, just for a bit of

inspiration about just a normal Aussie bloke who, did something crazy and could

change transform his life around. And little Eliza West was also on the line.

Yeah. I love that one. She was a fun chat. So, couple to choose from

there, but I'm I'm still a newbie, 17 in,

asked me again in in another, what, 80, 83 times when I'm

gonna reach a 100, hopefully. There we go. Yeah. That'd be nice, wouldn't it? That'd

be nice. Well done. Good memories, though. Great memories. I

was as you know, and everyone out there, I love to walk my dog every

morning. You do. I do. And, something came across my ears this

morning that that I thought was really bloody cool that I wanted to chat about

today. And you got no idea what it is. To be honest, Sadie's got no

idea about any of these conversations that take place though, which is awesome. So it's

actually really nice. And to answer your question, I just rock up now,

and I do no planning, and I just get to have a chat. Yeah. So

that's probably why I really enjoy it because previously, there's, like, a lot of work

went into my end of doing that now. Yeah. So, yeah, I rock in just

freeze a bird reader rock and don't get to talk. So I enjoy it. I'm

so jealous. I knew on that. We because we obviously work together. Right? And we

share a desk sitting next to each other and we're in the pot in the

bunker. We should just bloody throw the mics on during the day. Because we we

talk so much crap during the day. Yeah. To about to about 11 or 12

and then This is on the podcast. 3 hours we don't talk. We're just tapping

lights. Yeah. That'd be a fair editing job from you to feel through how to

all the, the non appropriate conversations take place.

But and I've heard this before, but there was a study from the Harvard University

and they started this study in 1938, and they

followed the lives you're nodding now, sorry. You know what I'm talking about. I know

the one. Yep. They followed the lives of 727

teenagers from 1938. What I love is,

obviously, professors who have looked after the study have come and gone, passed on, and

then a new one's gone. The pod I was listening to this morning, the

professor's been in charge of that study for 22 years now, and

there's only 10 left. So out of 727

teenagers who started the study and they would every year catch up with

these human beings, interview them, recall their

thoughts, their, their well-being, their happiness, their family, their

jobs, their hobbies, their interests, everything was

measured. Everything was, was taken into account. And there was only

10 of them left and they're all over a 100. All right. I know it's

insane. And listen to this guy speak to speak about it. Just the sheer joy

you had from it's been the coolest gig in the world. He didn't wanna do

it. Right? He didn't wanna do it. He he actually approached Harvard Uni with a

different pitch. They said no to his pitch, and they said, but how about we're

looking for a new person to take over this study? Just come in and check

it out. And he goes, I went in and I had a rate of 1

person's like study notes. Yeah. And it was about a

1000 pages long. Wow. This bloke was in his sixties

by then the person who's reading it, he goes, just reading his life from a

teenager and just how well it was documented. He goes, oh, I

was infatuated, and then bloody loved it.

But the reason why I wanna talk about it is he then he started talking

about the keys to it, right? The key, these 10 that delivered to a 100

or the the the, you know, the people lived over 80 or 90,

and who found the most fulfillment or happiness. And it was so bloody

simple. Obviously looking after your body was 1. Yeah. That's a no brainer. Looking

after your body is 1. Move, eat well, simple things like

that. The second one which I found, which was the key,

was being connected to a community. And I'm like, holy

shit. That's not rocket science, is it? No. It's not. Just be connected to a

community. Doesn't matter how big or small as long as you're connected to some sort

of community. Face to face, not with a device. It's gotta and that's the thing.

It's gotta be face to face. That's the problem. Yeah. That's what people don't have

now. Yeah. Sorry to cut you off. That's alright. No. Go for it. That's what

people don't have now. They think they're connected, but they're not. Yeah. Because it's through

a device. You're missing that human connection, that interaction.

It's that's, detrimental. Couldn't agree more. Yeah. The the

digital the digital world is is ruining that. The second most important

factor It's not ruining it. It's just making people really they think they're already

getting what they need, but they're not. Good point. Like, I I don't think

they're socially aware Yeah. Of how much they actually need that. And I don't reckon

they're realizing that until it's far too late. A 100%. Especially teenagers, adults as well.

Right? By then, the depression is massively kicked in. The isolation's massively kicked in. Well,

then you got that anxiety of social situations. That's true. So then you what

you do need to change, you actually physically can't for a lot of people. Yeah.

And I think COVID's amplified that, but people don't help themselves. It's not

always easy to stay connected with people or be part of something, but

that's why it's so valuable when you do. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I just

had I just had a light bulb moment too then. You're right. Like,

yeah. It's it's double edged sword with the the technology world is they think they're

connected, but we're not. Well, we're so socially connected, but so no.

So digitally connected, but they're so socially not connected. And then the anxiety

kicks in about I need to show up in front up in person. And I

can't do it. Conversation. They can't do it. It freaks me out, so I don't

wanna do it. Well, we even spoke about, you know, kids these days, particularly, you

know, when you're taking your kids to, like, soccer or something like

that. And just the anxiety kids have about leaving and and

starting, getting into it. Yeah. Leaving leaving their parents to run on the field

and joining training with kids their own age. Yeah. Yeah. It's

fucking mind blowing. So starting really young, but that's where I feel you don't

have to play sport, but I feel I don't I'm personally and I know you

are too, but sports played a huge part in my life Yeah. And there's been

a reason for that because the connections that it's allowed me to

make and the friendships, the people in your life of all

different ages, all different walks of life, everybody's accepted,

and everyone's got a place. That's the power of sport, I

feel. Yeah. I'd I'd I haven't seen really anywhere else

that does it as well as a sports club. Yes. I know some get the

bad rep on, like, binge drinking and, you know, bad culture or

whatever. But on a whole, when you start talking about the things we just

mentioned, you know, about social anxiety and isolation and

having no connections, that a sports environment does

that better than any way. Yeah. I agree. And even though you you move into

the adult world, not many adults are really

strongly connected to external community groups anymore. Yes. You'll go along into your

kid's sport or whatever it might be. You know, I mean, you're pretty lucky if

you've got a group mates that play golf regularly, for example, whatever it is or

catch up regularly and regularly that's not, let's go meet at the pub and get

smashed 4 times a year with a group mates. It's that more regular

occurrence. And this bloke was also saying that the he sort of said, he goes,

what I've learned from these studies, and over the last 22

years is the importance of me and my mates, and this guy's now in his

eighties, right? The me and my mates catching up for dinner

once a fortnight. Wow. And I started that because of after reading these

studies for 7 years and figuring it out, I was like, that's one of the

keys to our longevity and our happiness. And so I instigated that with

my group mates because we weren't doing that. And then once a fortnight, him and

his him and his friends catch up for dinner, and he goes, that's completely transformed

so many of our mental health, but just their happiness and our connection.

Yeah. It's insane. And so I literally reached out to a few of the boys

this morning, and said, let's catch up, you know, pre Christmas and, yeah,

not get smashed or something like key. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was

real. I don't know. Real, real interesting. Few more things that came out than I

wanna talk about. The third most important thing, was

a sense of purpose in making an impact on your community.

So a being connected to community, but the third most important thing was that these

individuals who live longer and happier had a sense of like purpose

or focus on how they can have a positive impact on their

community and they never lost sight of it. They kept working towards it. And I

thought that was really cool too. So not, you're not your business card. You're not,

you're not your business card. We've said that a few times. But having that

purpose outside of your career on how you can have a positive impact on your

community, also spurred on longevity and

spurred on happiness and fulfillment and those sorts of things, but you got to stick

at it. He said a lot of people started off in their twenties

thirties having some sort of purpose with their community, but it dropped

off and then they withered away. The ones that kept it through their forties

fifties sixties were the ones with the happiest in their retirement and live the longest.

Why is it, man? So simple, isn't it? To think of it that

way. Well, that's where I feel, you know, you see so many, like,

retirement complexes going up and things like that. I think it's a no

brainer that that's the best idea ever. Yeah. Because then

you've got things to do. There are there's activities planned. You've got

a community of people. You're all there together. Like, there's your purpose.

Yeah. And it's organized for you. And it's organized for you. I just I just

think it's a brilliant concept. Fun and it's engaging. What do they do? They play

every day. They're doing excursions. Bingo. They're doing excursions. They're playing lawn

bowls. You know? They've got everything you need, and there's something

every night. And that means you you don't have to do it all, but wow.

Like, when you're retired, what else are you doing? Mate, I got no crumbs going

to retirement No crumbs at all. A lot of people wanna stay at home. That

might change when I get to that age, but right now I'm like, sign me

up. Sign me up for movies and lawn bowls and and and bingo and

whatnot. And my old man, shout out Jim Bob. My old man's

74, and as you know, he's, he's reinventing himself as a

DJ. And he now it's amazing. Bloody love it.

And he now goes out to retirement villages and other things like that, and DJs

on the Saturday nights, Friday nights, and he goes, they go nuts. They literally put

the music on, they say crank it up, they dance like no tomorrow, and

he's literally getting paid to do DJ gigs at all these different time villages at

the age of 74. It's awesome. That is the best.

Oh, mate. Over in New Zealand, I bloody love it. Well done, Jimmy. It's bloody

brilliant. The last thing I wanted to bring up from this Harvard study is

it got me thinking about, I think how wrong

we've got at school. So the last most important thing was you've

gotta love your job and your career. Like, you gotta love it. And the sheer

amount of people in this study who reported hating their

jobs over a prolonged period of time, they all died

young. Wow. They all died young. They withered away.

The comment was they withered away and died young. Their their emotions

withered away. Their feelings, their connection, everything else because they stuck in a

job. The thing is the people that jumped and found their

true career they love doing and a job they actually didn't mind going to are

the ones that end up living longer and living happier. So that got me

thinking about careers Is that why you're not with the new one here? That's it.

Exactly right. No. I've said it a few times. I don't feel like I've gotta

work in the last 6 months. It's unreal. Every Monday I get Monday, I just

my previous gig and that is what it's, I don't feel like I've been gonna

work it for 6 months, which is awesome. So hopefully it continues and I

don't wither away. At schools, we have

career practitioners, career counselors. It's massive. Like the school is that we had

about 6 of them. And every single student goes through the careers

thing, right, from year 9, 10, 11, 12, and it's all your career.

Career, career, career. Why are we not

swapping them out between 7 career practitioners? We have life

coaches Yep. At schools. In the life coaches, you can still talk about

careers, but also get them focusing on what is your purpose

gonna be, what you're gonna have to be specific for a career. No. You aren't

your business card. No. And and change that so students,

and young people are entering the adult world with a bit more of a focus

or a mindset on right. What's important here for my longevity and happiness

is not just my bloody career. It's how I can have a positive

impact on those around me, my community, the world, and no matter how small

it is, but have some sort of goal around that. We're sending these young people

out with just goals towards career. Yep. Yeah. And that just

made that was my light bulb moment walking the dog this morning. I love it.

I love it. And that's the thing. There's so many different sort of coaches these

days that help people outside of school because people need it because

I don't think they're getting that at school. No. So once they leave school, they're

a bit lost, like, yeah, you might have to do these courses to go to

university and get that job, but what happens if you've done 4 years of study

and you don't like your job? Yeah. Do you stick at it? I don't know

any different. I was always told from you 9 that that's gonna be my

career. Yep. Well, that's not life now. And the world we live in, the possibility

is endless. So, oh, I I love that idea. Like,

that don't just pigeonhole career, you know, talk about future.

Yeah. Yeah. And with that, like, you have to tick off all different elements of

your future. Ways to stay healthy, ways to stay connected, ways to

feel good about what you do. Yeah. You know, what are your interest?

Not just select a career, but these are things you could do.

You don't have to do these 4 subjects in year 12. So you can go

to uni and then you can do that career. Yeah. You know, explore different

things. I just I I think it's a great idea, mate. It's a great idea,

isn't it? And then that just taught me too. And you can still get the

benefits out of the careers councils, but change their, yeah, change their focus too

to to broaden it a little bit. Don't label it careers. I'll feel

you know, we're big on don't label things. Yep. Like the moment you label

it straight away, people get anxious about that. People are

you're not supposed to know what you wanna do. Nah. Not everyone sticks at one

job. The world we're living from when our parents' generation that you're

just stuck at your job because that's what you did changes. Look look at the

world we're living now. People might have 10, 20 jobs throughout their life,

and that's fine. Yeah. What I'm up to? 1, 2, 3, 4. I'm up to

about number 4 now. Career number 4. Yep. I think they say nowadays,

people might do it 9 or 7 different careers in a lifetime, which I think

is pretty high, but I'm up to career number 4, I guess. I started

out young. When I was 10, I started my lawn mowing business, and I was

at McDonald's. I thought I probably done my fair few. I'm still 7 years old.

Don't worry. If I include me freaking me pizza hut, me Target, me

lifesaving, then it's up to number 7 or 8. But I'm thinking career is post

high school, actual career wise, it's it's career number 4,

in different industries. But, yeah. I don't know. It was bloody interesting. But

it's sort of popped up there, but the scores, if you're listening Let's say, Bring

in life coaches. Yeah. I've and don't even call you don't have to call them

life coaches, but, yeah, just don't label things like and

that's I know we're massive on this, and it makes sense. Like,

just make it make it something that particularly students wanna go

to because it'll help them figure out through those areas that they

may feel a little bit lost. Because those areas when they feel lost and it's

labeled career, then they start judging and comparing themselves

to others. Oh, they know what they would do. They're doing this course. They're gonna

be a doctor or they're gonna da da da down this. I think by labeling

it careers, you're actually building that stress and anxiety into it. Yeah. If you

don't know what you wanna do because you know, you have to sit down and

go through this course with them. Yeah. I just yeah. I'd make it

make it broader, make it just about how can you be the best possible version

of yourself Yeah. And enjoy each day when you get up. And isn't it mental

that the one of the key things longevity happiness in that study was

to have a focus or a bit of purpose or an idea how you

can have a positive impact in your community. I would

struggle to say what do you reckon, 5% of the pop world's

population probably has a mindset of that, of wake up in the morning

going, right, how can I actually have a positive impact On others? On others. Not

about me, me, me, me, me, me, my career mightily do this, do that.

What, the implications technology was there any mention

of that? There was. Right right at the very end, they spoke about how and

simple things like we've gone from, you know,

having face to face conversations to now now texting. And now that their

preferred method is now email Really? Or

texting. Yeah. And if you think about it, we we email like no tomorrow for

work. And as a mates group, I would email my mates far I'm sorry. I

would text my mates far more than I call them. Yeah. And everyone's the same.

Or your message through Insta, whatever it might be in those same things. So that

was number 1. They said that's the key detriment to technology

is that there's no more verbal or very little verbal

communication taking place and we need that connection. And then the other one

was the way even things are documented now, but it used to be all documented

in written files. You know, you you talk to a person, you take notes,

you talk those sort of things and now you click on a file on a

computer, you share it via an email that that interpersonal

connections gone. Yeah. And what you echoed

before people feel, they feel as though they've got enough

connection. Yeah. But realistically, they're not getting the type of connection they need. They don't

they don't know it till it's too late. Yeah. And also that some probably a

bit naive too. It's so much easier to get your phone out. Yeah. You know,

that's nothing I've found in life that's good is

easy. Like, and that's pretty simple. Like, most things

take work, dedication. Like, it's sometimes it's hard,

but that pays off. Yeah. And it's exactly the same with people and

connections and being part of something. You're not just gonna get it if you don't

put the effort in. No one's going to, you know, no one's just gonna keep

going, oh, oh, Dale, come on, mate. We know you don't put any effort, but

we just wanna keep bringing you along because I know it's good for you. Bullshit.

That doesn't happen. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that that would be my thing. Like, we

know what we need to do, but sometimes it's hard. But that's why it's worth

it. Yep. I love it. Another question that I noticed,

you cannot talk about I'm gonna put some parameters on here.

Can't talk about family. Okay. Can't talk about kids. Okay. I know it's horrible, but

I don't I I want I want you to recall something that's outside of that

role for me because it's 2 mates having a chatty. Okay. And I was watching

something the other day and it said, ah, she makes this question. I don't wanna

ask it. What is one memory

that you never wanna let go of?

Probably doing my TED talk. Okay. It was I've I've

probably sprayed 350 episodes. I probably mentioned. I've seen all these before,

but, it was something that took a, like, a while. Like,

it was hard to get. They're not easy to get one. And then I

practiced for 3 months straight. I think I recorded myself, like,

video over a 100 times, because I only got 15

minutes, and I was so nervous on the day. I remember I was, number 3

up, Rick Ricky Ponting, on the day, and I I got up and did it.

And the feeling afterwards, like, because you're supposed to

go 15 minutes, and I went I think I went 14 minutes and 54 seconds.

Yeah. So I was like, bang on. And it was just like, bang. It was

like, I'm really proud of that. Yeah. That's awesome. Even though I watch it back

now and I'm like, oh, there's things I don't like about it, I still

did it. Do you know that I've never watched it? Haven't you? No. Yeah. Don't

worry about it, mate. Many people that we work with are going, oh, I watch

your TED Talk. And I'm sitting there going, should I work with a bloke? And

I'm not part of the business. I actually haven't sat down and watched your TED

Talk. But I've seen you do half the shit numerous times now, obviously, in in

real life and in person. But, yeah, I've never gone back and watched your TED

Talk. Trees, I'll watch it. We might be most on the big TV. I've only

watched it twice. Oh, both of them. I watched it,

the day it come out. Yeah. And I watched it, a few months

ago when, was putting together those talks with Paul Watkins because I watched

his and mine to sort of help put the and I was still proud of

it, but, yeah, obviously, that was about 4 or 5 years ago now.

So the way I spoke and things I'd say, I was like,

oh, I could've got way better. Yeah. I'll always be our worst critics. Yeah. But

overall, I'm still proud of it. What's yours, mate? Oh, I knew you're

gonna Of course. I'm almost dead of me. I'll be honest with you. My

my mind, it's bloody inappropriate, but we're not talking to kids here. So it's

alright. It's quite funny. I'll be honest with you. My one that I never let

go of, I'm not gonna mention any names, but we were, we were

living overseas in a in a in in Colorado. And,

never forget one day wake up and, and I opened up my window

and it was absolutely like a dump. I'm talking a meter and a half of

snow. I looked at my window and it was epic. I was like, holy crap.

And I got up and I ran down the hallway and I, opened up my

best mate's door to his room and, opened the door and I was confronted with

the scene that I never wanna forget because it's one of the funniest things in

my life. And, and I still piss myself when I think about it today.

And I opened the door and he's me, mate, spread

eagle, butt naked, headphones in

with absolute punk music blaring, like so loud you could hear it

from the door through his earphones. Right? And, and his eyes were

closed. So he didn't hear me open the door. Didn't my door didn't see. My

eyes are closed. Music on, pumping away, spread eagle,

pleasuring himself. Alright? And I'm like

and I'm obviously my my jaw dropped him like that is something you don't see.

Right? And I didn't and he didn't know I was in the room because his

eyes are closed. The music's crazy. Did you sit there and watch? No. No. No.

Well, I turned I turned and then ran down the hallway, to go and get

the other boys that we're living with because it's fucking funny. And, obviously, I didn't

shut the door behind me and I'm halfway down the hallway and he's obviously

opened his eyes and turned and seen that his door was now wide open. I

just hear this, oh, no.

And obviously knew that he'd been caught. And, yeah, I'll we'll

never forget it. It's it's bloody funny. And I know it's

completely I'm expecting that. I don't know if I would ask a

question. I know. I don't know. And I knew when I was coming up with

this one today, I was gonna ask you you're gonna ask me. I'm like, you

know what? I gotta be true to the true to the pod and true to

people. Like, that's one memory that I know it probably shouldn't be

itching, but god it was bloody funny. One memory that I don't wanna

forget about is, at the same bloke, so I was the best man at his

wedding and, I actually told that story at at his wedding. It's the

best and it didn't go down too well with him or his missus. You're correct.

And it's something that I regret. I really do. So that's definitely one of me

where I wanna forget because I maybe shouldn't have shared that story at a wedding,

thing. But Probably not. But in terms of memory between he and I and

the rest of the boys in that trip to the survivors, absolute bloody pisser. And

when I think about it, it takes you back to, you know, being 21,

traveling the world, snowboarding with your mates, powder days and those sorts of

things and everything else that comes with that. And, that's one thing that I never

wanna forget, but bit random

And you're talking to me, I'm like, damn, you know, the mics are on. I

know, I know. And I was like, no bugger it, I'm saying it. Good on

you. I'm saying it. You can say whatever you want. And I think that's why

I put the parameter on it at the beginning, no family, because it's easier for

you to go, you know, and I would. If you get if you want me

to go that that pathway, you know, my wedding day, my wedding speeches, my my

my child hunter walking for the first time, you know, those sorts of things.

You know, there's lots in there. Lots that I never wanna forget. But in terms

of just for my I guess for myself a bit more and for you,

that's the one really cool memory to recall. Yeah. And it's something

I wanna do, like, out for dinner next time I have dinner with some mates.

I wanna ask them that. No family, no mate, no no family, no kids talk

because we we talk we do that all the time. Yeah. And it's beautiful. But

we're all the kids now and that's where the conversation goes to. But I think

it's healthy for us sometimes. You go, you know what, lads? Give us your favorite

memory that you never wanna let go of and it can't be your family or

kids. I know I can have a conversation on the table would be pretty bloody

funny. Oh, and it'd be deeper too. Yeah. What do you tell? Get more out

of just setting the service level. Yeah. Yeah. How's your kids? How's your kids? How's

your work? Yeah. Good. Good. What are you up to? Anything what are you doing

for the holidays? Same shit all the time. Right? Correct. Yeah. I heard

that the other day. It was like to draw it. That'd be even better. Oh,

can you imagine me drawing my one?

But, yeah, get us the old gratitude no. Yeah. What do we call that

memory Pictionary? Yeah. Yeah. Memory lane Pictionary. Yeah. Somewhere like that. Just

create a new activity for our workshops. That's all we do. Oh, watch out. Watch

out. Don't steal it, listeners. That's it. That's it. It

is summer days in here. Christmas is 9,

episode 350. Yep. Thanks for having us

along. Congratulations on making it. We've hoped you've enjoyed

the week that was. And, yeah, look forward to and enjoy the little

run to Christmas, everyone. I bloody love it. I don't know if Sadie loves Christmas

as much as I do, but Oh, I I enjoy Christmas. I just don't like

Christmas carols, and I'm sick of them already. Yeah. I don't pop in the house

at all. We're not listening in here. It's like, Bree goes, do

you like the Grinch? I'm like, no. I just don't like Christmas carols. I do

my head in. Anyway Favorite favorite Christmas movie?

I like Elf. Ah, yeah. Good. Wolf, Will Ferrell.

Yes. Yours? Like it. The Grinch, but the cartoon

one. Oh, yeah. That's good. We watched the other day. Yeah. I watched the Could

you call Home Alone a Chris' room? If it is, it'd have to be up

there for mine in my 5 because it's a classic. Oh, best. I really love

it. Yeah. Awesome. Alright, everyone. Enjoy your week. Thanks for tuning in.

Episode 350. Take care.

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