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share with. Welcome back listeners to episode

357 of the Energetic Radio podcast. Once again,

I'm Jordan the Bunker, the podcast studio with the one and only mister

Dale Sidebottom. Good day, mate. How are you? Campbell, very good. Thank you. Another week.

Another podcast. Another week. Exciting. I know. I'm glad having them back. I love getting

the shoe over there every week again. It's bloody brilliant after our slow start to

the year. Yes. We are back pumping them out. Yeah. It's,

time flies as you know, and we, what is Easter Easter holidays are upon

us soon, which is super exciting with families and educators and people

everywhere except for those people that don't get holidays and then they hate them. But,

yeah. It's the only time when we sort of been a teacher. Yeah.

Let's be honest. The, the holidays don't think outweighs everything else about it. So

I I just, I just remember how excited you used to get,

like so this is going at next week, but this is the last week of

term and you just get so excited about it. It's like, it's

almost like approaching finals in '46, isn't it? It's like, oh, it is

really it is. When you're in it, it is. I'll tell you what, when the

educators and students are still in the thick of it, I guarantee this week leading

into it, they wake up, it's like like last week, even my kids every every

morning like, last week of school or the holidays, and they're only in prep in

grade one and they're already frothing them. You know what I mean? Countdown already. Yeah.

So There you go. Yeah. I mean, nothing's quite the same feeling as that last

week of term four when you know you've got five or six weeks of summer

holidays off, but, I think most people will be very excited about the couple of

weeks off and recharging the batteries and getting some good family time in. That's for

sure. No doubt. And then waiting for that little furry thing to come around and

deliver a heap of chocolate. So, mate, let's get into it. You got some stats

and then, I'm pretty sure you're gonna read out some stats about, our term

one. Yes. If you're gonna do that, then do yours first. But,

yeah, epic term one. It's been an amazing been amazing. I'll leave it there, and,

you go for it, great man. But, first and foremost, we have a a long

time listener, listens every week. First time caller. Long time listener, first time

caller. He often actually sends him messages and whatnot, which is beautiful.

The one and only Nick Roche, and Roche took

the time and the effort to create an intro for it. There's

a lot of time in it. Yeah. Rochi put more effort in than I

do. It does. And he literally messaged us and said, hey, I've got I've got

an intro for episode 357. It hasn't yet been recorded. Well, Rochi, the good

news is we are recording it right now. So you got in just in time,

and he goes, I won't be offended, but I'll I'll create a little intro for

you. And so I'll read it out because he's gone to the effort to make

it for us. So, 03/1957 is the amount of runs that the

mighty Hyatt West Cricket Club just defended in the Sea Cup Pullen

Shield grand final to win back to back flags. Well done, hold

on. Unbelievably, the opening partnership between

Benny McDonald and Christian McInerney was

310, with Benny McDonald knocking out a 83 and

Christian a 12. That's a bloody good effort. That's an impressive opening stand. Isn't

it? One more run than Mornings Junior Club

East Sandringham made in total against us. So congratulations to

the Hyatt West Cricket Club who, went back to back

in the cricket grand finals, made 357 and obviously

knocked off, East Sandringham for 309,

I imagine. And then he's gone a little bit on another

tangent. The number thrown in 57 in numerology glows

with energies of care for others. The number suggests

an ability at an emotional level to have an active

connection to the emotions and thoughts of others. There we

go. Very nice. Beautiful. That flows in pretty well to the first thing I wanna

talk about. Now you're surprised when you walked into my house and you saw on

a bench this birthday card. Yes. And I was baffled by this, but

and first of all, thank you to everybody that reached out for the messages and

calls for my fortieth. It was, it's always really nice. So I do

appreciate that, but I got this one card in the mail

that I was so perplexed about. It just blew my mind. And

it was from a local member of MP that had

handwritten a birthday card to me. And it wasn't

it might have been for a special occasion, but it was the most bizarre thing

ever. And I asked you, have you ever had one? You said, no. Bring my

wife. So, like, why have you got that? And I I still don't know why

I got this handwritten birthday card from a local member. I

agree. I met this No. Member. Honorable Mark someone. I walked in your

kitchen. I saw it there, picked it up, and went, why is someone of parliament

sending you a handwritten birthday card? No. I've never

heard of anyone get anyone. I only hear hear of When you hit a hundred.

When you hit a hundred. Yeah. My, yeah, my great grandmother

reached a ton raise of that, and she got a letter from the queen Yeah.

Back then, but not, a handwritten one from someone in parliament. Anyway No.

If anyone's got one of these, let me know. Still

keep it on looking. I still don't really understand why I got it. Mate, they're

watching. They're watching. They're keeping tabs on you. They're watching. They know what's going

on. That goes well with the glowing energy. I must have some glowing energy. You

must have some glowing energy. And Mark, the honorable Mark, someone from the from

the parliament has connected with you. Yeah. He literally sent you a handwritten Yeah.

Birthday card. With his picture on it. So I don't know if you want me

to vote for him or if the election's coming up. It is coming out soon,

isn't it? Won't be talking about politics, but good morning, Mark. Appreciate the handwritten note.

No. I love it. I love it. Stats. Go for it. Stats. Oh, that's right.

Stats. Romy stats. Here we go. So our term one in

2025 stats, really impressive actually. So we've

impacted just over 3,400 students. Whoo.

So over three just close to three and a half thousand young people. Primary school

and secondary? Primary and secondary school have been impacted by programs in term

one, in fifty days of school, which is bloody unbelievable. I've

had just over 830 staff have gone through some of our

staff workshops. Wow. So think about the reach those 830 staff are

then having with the amount of students in their care. Yep. Generally, each staff member,

if you're in secondary, teaches about a hundred hundred kids, so it's pretty bloody massive.

We've connected we worked with 38 schools in term

one. That's awesome. Why did you say fifty days? Yeah. Well, there's fifty days in

term, generally. Yeah. We have been busy. We have been busy.

We're just crazy. Multiple states. Multiple states. Three different states.

We've worked we've delivered 11 student leadership workshops.

That's 11, emerging leadership workshops we've run,

next gen and and student agency workshops. We've worked

with 250 just over 250 principals at principal conferences.

Wow. So that's a lot of principals that are then hopefully going back and, you

know, passing on the knowledge I've learned from us and impacting their staff and their

students and their school communities in a really positive way. And we picked

up seven corporate gigs as well throughout the term, which is

bloody unreal. So in terms of stats, ten weeks busy

term, but we have been off to an absolute fly, but I'm just really

proud, you know, just close to three and a half thousand young people that we've

impacted and hopefully just planted one little seed Yeah. To help make

them the best version themselves, is really cool. Term

two, dare I say it. It's quite scary. Sorry, wives.

It's the first six weeks. I'd say this. I'm not gonna listen. The first

six weeks are pretty much absolutely fully booked of

term two. And we are driving here, there, and

everywhere. Lots of rules, trips. But I dare say the numbers for

term two will probably nudge if not surpassed. I reckon they will. Yeah. They will

definitely will. Which is which is super exciting. So everyone out there who's booked us

in, who's worked with us, who shown us, support, thank you so much. We love

it. And, yeah, hopefully, those three and a half thousand young people we've

impacted on, we've put a bit of a spring in their step. But, yeah, really,

really proud. Honestly, really proud of it. It's awesome. Great start. Great start to the

year, mate. It is, isn't it? I came across as,

a bit of a quote before and you and I talked about this a fair

bit, and I also need to think about in my own life as well

as much as I can. But, the quote was simply is the cure to

boredom is curiosity. And you and I talk about this so much, and

you said the other day, you know, when you're on the train or whatever it

was, or someone got up and left, you know, you're at a cafe. Yeah. Every

time. So every time I'm in a cafe or a restaurant or I'm having a

meeting or somewhere with somebody, I'm really aware when the person I'm with, if they

go to do something or they go to the toilet or I, like,

I literally I have my phone no one near me. So I do not pick

it up. I don't wanna look at it because I just wanna stay present for

that time. I can check it afterwards. Yep. But it's amazing how many times somebody

gets up and the first thing when that person leaves, they grab their

phone instantly. And it's the same thing when you see kids walking down the

street now, they're on their phone. Adults are the same, walking their dog, they're on

the phone. They're waiting at a bus stop, they're on their phone. Public transport,

wherever that might be, any opportunity that you are not

engaged now, you're grabbing that phone, which means the number

one thing that allows creativity to occur is boredom. And you were

talking about the other day with, obviously, your oldest hunter,

the the moment they get bored, they don't allow it because they're gonna do something

else. Yep. Tell that story out there, actually. They get bored, they they gotta be

bored and he's like, hey. Can I go watch some TV? And and we we

went, yeah. You know, go go watch some TV. And he and he slumped in

the chair and he got the, you know, Netflix on, The

Investigators is a show that he loves watching and he sat there and watched few

episodes. And, and I was sitting there thinking to myself, jeepers, we probably got that

wrong. Because it was only about, you know, 04:30, quarter to five in the afternoon

and we generally a bit better than that. We generally go, nah, you know, no

TV time till after dinner. But we gotta be lazy in that account, which is

fair enough. But Every now and then is okay. Yeah. But just there there and

then, like, fifth ten years ago, eight years ago, whatever have been

without Netflix around or those things where, you know, kids have

got instant access to their favorite TV shows. If you and I did that

when our kids and we jumped on the TV, nothing's on. Probably switch it off

and go and do something creative. Because there's only five channels. Yeah. There was bugger

all. But nowadays, these young people have either got access to Netflix or the social

media straight away, and so do adults as well. So instead of getting bored, you're

just jumping on, you've got instant entertainment for what you want. Yeah. And so

therefore you're not getting bored. And I'm a I'm I'm the same. This is what

made me think about this. I need to get better at this myself. Like,

even last night alone, I can probably think of four instances

where I had a little lulling proceedings, and I did. And I picked up my

phone and had a little scroll. If I'd used those four times just to pick

up my guitar that was sitting in the corner of the family area, that hasn't

been picked up for quite some time. I think my, I think my two year

old picked it up. He did. He did. He did. And I picked that up

those four times and just played around with it for the two or three minutes.

Had little island proceedings. That's twelve minutes in total. That would have been twelve minutes

of guitar practice they would have had. Yep. Twelve minutes of my kids see

me practice the guitar and go on, gee. Does that look cool? Maybe I'll pick

up mine. Yeah. But no. Instead, I did a mindless,

numbness activity, got nothing out of it. My kids probably saw me a couple of

times flicking through my phone. Who knows what they thought? Probably not

positive things. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So I'm putting my hand up as well,

that I need to get a bit more comfortable with being bored in inverted brackets

and then being curious when I get bored and going to do something a bit

more worthwhile than scrolling through my phone. But it's such an

easy thing to fall into. It is, mate. It is. But you gotta be aware

of it. And, I've been the same. So I deliberately don't

take my phone with me any like, a lot of places now. I've noticed that,

actually. Yeah. I've noticed that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you left the other day and

you said I'm leaving my phone here. Yeah. I was just Yeah. And you took

off without it. Yeah. Because I don't need it. Yeah. Why do I need it?

Like, I don't need to take it with me. So a lot of places don't

take it now. And one thing I've started doing, if I do get a little

bit bored, I've dice like, because, obviously, I like to be creative, and I'm

really, really trying to find ways that obviously, a lot of our

games are suited, you know, to primary school and above. Having

a four and a two year old, I know the power of what play can

do and dice. But I don't want just wanna do puzzles or, you

know, I wanna do really creative educational games that they don't realize

they're learning. So, the other night, I found a bigger dice so the boys can

count the numbers on them. And, obviously, they don't know what the numbers look like

yet, but they can count them because they're big. And so I made up a

game. I was like, I allowed myself to be bored because then I was allowed

to get creative. And I was so proud of myself that I created this game

called Dice Jenga Towers where you have a Jenga set, which a lot of

people do. Mhmm. And you have one six sided dice. And I played it last

night with family. You put all the Jenga pieces in the middle and

everybody takes in turn as a rolling the dice. The highest number, that's

who starts. So my two year old, Benjo, he got highest number so

he rolled. He didn't really sort of get it but he did. And then he

then he would start and he rolled. He got a five. So he would take

five Jenga blocks. Yep. Then I roll, I got a one. I remember Vivo leaks.

I'm like, oh, not competitive, but I am. That gets my two year old for

him. For him, I wanted to beat him. It's so good. And so then I

got one, and we kept going until the whole set of Jenga blocks was gone.

And then I set a two minute timer, and it was whoever could build

the highest freestanding Jenga tower with their blocks. And it

was really fascinating to see that, obviously, I

didn't get as many and neither did, Banjo, a two year old. And just the

way he was building his compared to others because he didn't have many. Yep.

Shout out to bring my wife. She won. I love them. But it was

the whole element behind it. If you think about it, rolling the dice,

everyone like, each time the kids would have to count it, like, and

they'll pick them out for us. So there's so many, like,

learning, you know, that cognitive development layers within that that

just so I didn't even realize. And I could see Bree looking going, wow. This

is actually really good. Yeah. And then when you set the two minute timer,

everybody still got the chance to win. It's just how brave you are. And I

know we recorded the video this morning and in that you won and Yeah. I

just had to be brave because I didn't have many. So such a

powerful game that and it works so well. If you've got young kids out

there, go, if you just go into YouTube and type in Dale Sidebottom,

Dice Jenga Towers, we recorded that this morning

Yep. And we've shared it on there. It's a brilliant game, particularly,

I think it worked for your boys, but we're all for anyone. Anyway great with

them, but they're they're playing, some of our other games, which are a little bit

more advanced from our curriculum, which is great Yeah. Because it's been awesome to test

them out. But for where I've been trying to incorporate what we

do with younger kids, That this game works so well.

Yeah. And it was and we'll use it again. The I know we'll play it

again tonight. Yeah. So if you if you do have young kids or even if

you don't, give it a try. It's actually a really fun one. And I know

you said why don't we could we play with Lego? And you could, but

Lego, you stack it on. It's locked in place. It's secure. I think that's the

biggest thing I loved about this game was watching the two boys

think about how they were going to build it and were they just gonna be

risky or were they gonna build a foundation and do it? With their little engineering

minds kicked in. So many. You know what I mean? And it's just got wind

up because they just sort of click, click, click, click, and the the what do

you call them? The nodules would have done it together for them, whatever they're called.

But, yeah, with the Jenga blocks, you've gotta be strategic and think about engineering and

a good base support and you get it. So, yeah, you're right. The layers on

it And it was just so it was amazing to watch. Like, in a

like, I was just like, I need to do more of that

to try more of these because I know it'll work if it works for my

family, it'll work for others. And so, yes, we'll work in our business, but probably

more the people that matter the most to me in the world, it

made a difference for them. Yeah. And I was I actually felt really proud. I

said, I know I emailed you and I said, mate, I would get around, like,

as if you care. Like, I know you do care, but it was just something

I truly felt so good about. Yeah. And so many parents

struggle to play, especially play outside. Like, a lot of

parents you can see boring, mate. I don't even wanna play imaginary cups of tea.

Yeah. But not even that like, even beyond that, like, a lot of kids will,

you know, you know, dad come play basketball or mom come kick soccer ball with

it. And a lot of parents come you see it, they're, like, kind of roll

their eyes and go, oh, that's a lot of effort. I do that too. I

know we would be. I get what you're saying. So many parents struggle who aren't

sporty, but it might be and think to go out and have physical exertion Yeah.

Is hard and more often than not, they'd probably give them ten minutes or probably

say, no. Listen, I'm too busy. But this sort of play is you get the

same benefits of the connection. Your kids still go, holy smoke. My parents are playing

with me, and that's all I want in life. But it makes

play a lot easier for a lot of parents because you're sitting at a table,

you're using dash, you're using cards, whatever it might be. But the cognitive

development's there, strategic development's there, and the connections of families there. So you get all

those amazing benefits. So if you sit there and you struggle a little bit with

that notion of playing with your kids and this hard yakka, go to some

classics. Go to some classic card games or put your own spin on it. Yeah.

That's what we've been doing a heap lately. You know, the Uno Roll that we

create. We create a game called Uno Roll of the classic Uno game.

Bloody unbelievable. You know what I mean? So as a parent, get creative. It goes

back to the boredom thing, and try and think of a of a new game

that you can create and play with your kids, and then go and play with

them. Get some food. Go and check out the one that I created last night

on YouTube because that work with a four and a two year old, so it'll

work with anyone. And it'll just it'll be just as engaging. Mhmm.

So, yeah, to bring all that back to what you're saying is

by allowing yourself to be bored, then you get creative, and then you can do

something productive instead of scrolling. Yeah. And I think that's yeah. I

I was horrible at it because I was just lazy. Yep. You know, it's like

at the end of the day, we all can relate to it. You do. And

you wanna switch off a bit too. But then I was like, I'm not enjoying

between six and seven every night because it's crazy hours. So I'm like, let's

do something you do well, make it a more enjoyable experience. And it was a

great evening last night. Yeah. But you have to be intentional with it. And that

meant that, yeah, I had to be bored to get creative. So you've been

curious, creative, bored, whatever it might be, allow yourself to do it. Yep. And I'm

gonna take a leaf out of my own book, and I'm gonna try and be

more intentional with it. I love that you leave your phone at home a lot

or leave it away, and so I'm gonna be more intentional with that. And I

will check back in a few weeks and let you know if I picked up

the guitar of mine. That'll be a good practice. Can I need to? Song, mate.

I never said, oh, sing a song. I got one for you too,

right? Chocolate fundraising

boxes. Now Yep. I'm not happy with

these. Okay. So I get it's great to raise money,

everything like that. Awesome. Now we didn't sell all that. That's fine. Are these the

Easter eggs that I bought for kids? So you bought some. Yeah. Thank you. You

bought some. So I still got about six packets left. Good to know. So the

place the place we were doing it for, you're not allowed to take in the

money and the coins and things. They wanted a bank transfer. So

not only now Oh. Do I have all these crap coins that I can't use

for anything. Because what could you spend on coins? We got all these

excess chocolate because we didn't sell them, and that hasn't been good because I just

keep eating them. It's like the worst thing you have possibly have leading

into Easter. I'm already just banging down so many. But

then also now I'm out of pocket $80, and I've got all these kind

of coins. I must admit I didn't know I haven't been involved in one of

these across the time. I didn't know you weren't allowed to hand back the little

No. No. The little plastic pocket on these kids. But they said no. We want

bank transfer. That's ridiculous. I was like, well, jeez. That's ridiculous. Well, the only thing

you can use those gold coins for, mate, is that They're not even gold. They're

bloody silver. You know what? Just use them as bribery for your kids. Oh, I

know. When they do something awesome, here's a dollar. When they do something new, bribe

them into doing amazing things. But, do you not have, like, a little

piggy bank thing that you fill up in at the end of the cash, you

didn't even get the item? Cash anymore. Yeah. That's true. I literally don't use

cash. Yeah. That is I'll be honest with you. I think it's a bit disappointing

that the young kids go in and collect the money, which is normally change or

notes, and then they don't get the joy of going and handing that in anymore.

Correct. I did a bank transfer last night. Yeah. That's no good. And then I

had the money this morning, and Sonny goes, that's my money. I'm like, well,

man, I'm actually out of pocket, and I've got chocolate now. I've got all these

coins. So Son, that's not the only one. Keeping the coins, mate.

So, anyway, there's a little pee out of my bonnet. I don't know if anyone

else had the same experience. I've heard that people don't want heap of coins rocking

in like that. At the end of the day, it's fundraising. Jeez. That that fundraising

molars stood the test of time there, hasn't it? Hasn't what? Yeah. Isn't it? Well,

I remember that. I remember being a student and and doing the old category fundraising

boxes. Used to be $1 now. I don't know. They're they're, A bag of it.

Bag, but it's $4. Like, obviously, cost of living is going up. I

know. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm I'll buy another bag. Okay. I got it. They're

all they're all guiding my ass. Paper. So he's going to grab a bag. I

love freaking I'll give me a free tip. Better. I love that. That's awesome. I

actually bought something to say. That's all I've got. I don't appreciate that. You brought

a couple of things. I didn't know. I just really proud of the game. So

give that a try. That is awesome. That's all I've got. I'm gonna know now

to be here. Oh, this part. Here we go. I'm nerding out on

neurogenesis. As this summer came across

me is from a lady called doctor Zara Swart.

And she came across my ears and she's talking about neurogenesis for those you playing

along at home. Neurogenesis is where new neural pathways

are developed in the brain. In particularly, it's great for

cognitive development, learning new things, memory retention, etcetera,

etcetera. And they've done this massive study. And they simply found

that if you, if young people, have just a very short

amount of aerobic activity before

learning, before any type of learning. They have a 13 to

14% increase in retention and better so better memory

retention and better learning capabilities just from doing some low to

medium aerobic activity before doing the any

type of learning. And I was sitting there thinking, man,

why don't why aren't we doing that more in schools? Why aren't we doing that

more in schools? Why aren't we doing that more in schools? Confused. Yeah. And I

know we've got Matt, the principal coming up in a couple of weeks as a

guest. It's very basic. Isn't it? Very simple.

Class with five minutes worth of some real simple little light movement. Movement. And

then you prime those. Yeah. Star jumps. Little chair squats. Yeah. Real basic

stuff. Yeah. Get them get them walking around, whatever it is, full leader. Anything super

simple. Just prime their brains five minutes of little activity first, and

then all that benefits of of, you know, better memory retention, better learning capabilities.

So we should be more intentional with that. Even for parents in home with homework

and those sorts of things, you know, before homework time, whatever it might be, just

encourage five, ten minutes worth of play. Because I know so many families where the

kids get home and head down by much straight away, get home. Yeah. Homework times

for an hour, whatever it might be. It's a little bit backwards now. So

encourage a little bit of play first, a little activity, and then get your your

kids learning things or doing their homework. But, yeah, neurogenesis learned that the other day

walking walking my dog and I was like, man, that's really interesting. And then I

love that's obviously what we do. Our curriculum is all about play and we have

sneaky movement. We'd say a lot, we trick the kids into doing a bit of

sneaky movement. We do. And so, yeah, I just think more schools and more

homes could be a bit more intentional with thinking about, right, what's the best way

for my kid to learn here, get a bit of oxygen flowing through their through

their brains, through a little bit of sneaky movement, and then do the learning.

Yeah. And that's and you were like, we're planning out the keynote that,

we did last week to pit, the peninsula prince principles. Can't

even spit it out. Had I talk for an hour up on stage. And there's

this really simple game we play. And you're like, that's not the best game, but

the reason behind it is because it does that. Yeah. Gets that little bit of

movement going. Yep. And it's really simple game. It's called dice

spinny. If you roll a six, you have to go, sucks. And you have

to say it like that. And there's two fold of this. It allows them to

be vulnerable in front of a group and be a little bit silly Yeah. Which

is okay. But then they have to do either spins, squats, or star

jumps. They're very nonthreatening simple movements that they can do. And

once you've got them there, they've been vulnerable, they move their body, and then you

can go into the next one. Yeah. So I think it's a great in anything

like that that you can get moving or doing something. This is for adults as

well. We gave them the option principles, 80 in the

room, almost they're in suits. You know, nice dresses, things like that. We

gave them the option that they didn't need to just do the movements. They could

answer questions as well, but three quarters of them were doing the movements. Yep.

And And even even the corporate world before your meetings, do something a little bit

fun, a little bit little bit drove you all, gets a little bit of movement,

a little bit of oxygen flowing, and then have your meeting in the corporate world.

You know? It doesn't have to be serious whole time, but there's benefits from it

as well. %. Yeah. Completely get it. What have you got nerd out? I like

that nerd out. You like a nerd out? Neurogenesis, little bit of sneaky movement works

a treat. What have you got to look what's coming up? What have you got

to look for for me? Excited for next week's podcast. We've got Sean Bell

on. If you go back, oh, I couldn't even tape it three or four years

ago, I had Sean on. He's a good friend

of a student I used to teach, Matt Sapala. Yeah. And I've

mentored and helped Matt. He he was just the most beautiful student ever and,

like, was a sponge. So he he used to come and watch all the boot

camps and PT I did, and then he sort of followed then I helped him

set his own up. And now he's running a really successful gym, and most of

us is a really good human. Anyway, one of his good mates is Sean Bell,

and, he introduced me to him when Sean did 50

marathons in fifty days, because he had a a friend who passed

away. Anyway, Sean's recently just become the

fastest person around Australia. So I think it was a hundred

and eighty odd days where he was doing 80 plus

kilometers every day. Man. These people blow my mind. Oh, this

is crazy. So I just remember each day he'd watch along on, like,

on his, Instagram and the stories and, like, he the

blood, the nose is just spewing every day. Like, his

feet. I I I can't wait to we we haven't recorded it yet. We're

we're going to have it, this week with him, but I just yeah. I

can't wait to hear just

everything about it. Yeah. Because the mental demons he must

have gone through, like, I know he put like, he planned to do this

for five years. And, yes, I'm really excited to because I've

caught up with him a couple of times as well because he was he does

keynotes and things like that. And, you know, he was he's an eager young kid

that's a legend. And I was sorta giving some advice or answers

to questions and things like that. So I'm excited to touch base with him,

talk about his journey and adventure, the highs and lows, but also how

he's changed from that. Yeah. I wanna try and I'm gonna try and

absorb a bit of his grit. Oh, man. I'm sure he's got Good luck. He's

got it in bucketloads. He's got things in there. Grit than anyone. I don't think

you can just get that. I know. But I don't know where you get that

from, mate. That's insane. Yeah. You gotta develop it over time, I reckon. You gotta

keep you gotta keep putting yourself in the uncomfortable positions. Boredom stuff. Through that. Yeah.

That's it. And get through those uncomfortable positions and that that little bit of grit

develops 1% at a time. And eventually, you've probably got 10% more

grit than you had six months ago if you keep putting yourself in those in

uncomfortable positions and getting through it. Yep. And just never giving up. You know

what I mean? Like, that's what you develop your grip. You get better and better

at through not giving up. Yeah. Right? And the way you talk to yourself. What

about you, mate? What you got coming up? I'm excited about it. I'm super, mate.

Simple things in life. I've, I've started coaching my my kids

soccer team. So they have little Chelsea. Ted lasso. Ted lasso. I'm sorry

Ted lasso as well. You would be. The the under seven

Believe. Warriors. Believe. Warriors. The warriors. Under seven

warriors. Chelsea soccer club. It's my first little foray into

coaching any sort of junior soccer team, my kids. So, now I'm

just like my oldest son, Hunter, is seven. He's under sevens. And my

youngest one, Parker is five and Parker is joining in, just because he

can because he does the coach. And yeah, I got got beautiful

seven seven or eight, players. They're little legends Tonight, he's

training session number two. And I'm mad. I'm pumped. I'm excited for it.

Gives you something planned for. But you're right. I'm very tad less so about it

because I am, even last week after every after every drills, like,

get around each other, high fives. You know, mine shouldn't be the only voice.

Team first. Encourage, and I've got these eight little seven year

olds running around going, good job this person. Good job, Hunter.

And I love, I guess, my what I'm looking forward to most is

developing that sense of team. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. I can't wait to develop and see

how it goes. Obviously, holidays are coming up. We'll nip away and and happy

to family time down in Marlowe as a family, which we're looking forward to. I'm

not and I'm not gonna lie, mate. I love a good Easter Easter egg. I

love a good Easter bunny. The big Easter bunnies with the tick eggs. Oh, I

love them. You've already gone through your fair quota. I've gone through my Easter quota

for sure. That's for sure. You're not getting any more eggs then. Leave the

six packets of ones I've got, please. Yeah. So we're that time. And then,

we've got some cool gigs in the holidays. We've got, like, one for example with

Muscular Dystrophy Australia. We do. That'll be new to

me. You and me too. Yeah. New new one to new one to tick off

and a new challenge, to plan a workshop for, for kids with

with that condition. So, yeah, looking forward to supporting that that great cause.

But, yeah, and then maybe the family time, getting ready

and set for, actually, like a monumental six weeks

back in turn two. So, yeah, a bit of downtime. Then we got Ram

on a footy is starting for the, for the parked out vultures too. So looking

forward to that. So it'll be going on. It'll be a lot going on. Yeah.

But looking forward to it. Ladies and gentlemen, we hope you

enjoyed this episode of the energetic radio. Thanks, Rochi, for,

the in-depth. We didn't go through them all either. Had all you. Yeah. And I

said, let's cut it at that. Rochi's got better Smith and Western. There was like

Rochi too much, mate. But thank you. We appreciate it. We really appreciate it.

Everyone, have an awesome have an awesome set of holidays coming up with your family

and friends. Connect with each other. We'll be back next week regardless anyway, but

Shorty Bell. Get ready. Shorty Bell. Giddy up. Adios.