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That's good. The people in the bunker. Bunker. The people in the bunker. I'm

joined by Dal Sibonum. We, have full bellies after an

Easter Easter hiatus for a couple of weeks, which is nice. And,

yeah, I'm sure everyone's well rested. And, how was your Easter

break, mate? It's pretty full on. I'm not gonna lie, mate. We didn't go away.

Had, sickness went through the house, which, is always nice.

But that was nice. We did, a few little day trips and things like that.

Yeah. So that was a nice little break, mate. Didn't get away like you, though.

Yeah. You, had a nice little getaway. We had a good little getaway. We had

a couple of almost a good ten days down a little place called Marlow, which

is beautiful. And, and I was actually saying to my mate this morning, it's

amazing when you, get away out of the

city and you're in a caravan sort of environment and the and the camping

environment, and my kids are in the water probably three, four hours

a day, minimum beach inlets, whatever it might be. And just

you can see and feel how their mind just gets

freed up. It was mind blowing. I was talking about this morning, you can imagine

the kids that spend two weeks at home, two weeks of the holidays on

devices, or do it might be might be mum and dad are working. Yeah. And

then they try and go back to school and you can just feel how their

minds would be, like, all hazy and not clear and

not refreshed. And on the flip side of that, I've just

seen the power of when your kids are outside and when you're outside

and you'll spend a heap of time in nature over and over again, day on

end, you just your mind is just so much clearer, your kids

are happier, they're running around, they sleep like demons, they

eat like demons, and it's just incredibly powerful. You know what I

mean? So I know it's hard for everyone to do it, but as much as

you possibly can when your kids are an age, get get them out of the

city as much as you possibly can, get into some nature for a little bit

and try and give their minds a little bit of break from the hustle and

bustle of what's going on in our daily lives. But now we have an

awesome time heaps of fishing, which was good. We had a lot of fresh fish,

which was nice. So no, mate. Really good really good trip,

and I think we needed it because we've got a a humongous

humongous term to a head. We are completely fully booked for the first

six to seven weeks, which is nuts. We are, which is exciting. It is exciting.

So, now it was nice to recharge the batteries and and get set

for for a crazy sort of couple of months ahead. %,

mate. %. And I we're very fortunate. I haven't been to Marlowe, and,

we're all there on Sunday. We are there on Sunday. We're spending the week down

at down in God's Country, as we like to call it. And, visiting places

like Cairn River and Mallacoota and Oahuas and a few regional regional schools. And we

can't wait. I'm sure the kids down there are gonna be absolutely delightful to with.

They will be amazing. So They will be amazing. If you're listening to this from

that region, we can't wait to get down there next week and and spend some

time down in in the beautiful sunny Malo. Very excited.

It was actually my first little conversation about today actually popped in my mind

from a I was shopping at FoodWorks in in Aarborst, and

there was not and there was a a lady old lady, probably in her seventies

or whatnot, and she was having a lovely chat, to the lady behind the counter.

And she said to her, she said when she had a beautiful conversation, she turned,

she said, stay safe when she said goodbye. She was

like, stay safe. And I'm like, and it just caught my ears. And I was

like, why do we say that? Why do we turn to someone at the

end of a bit of conversation and go I can't say I ever have. No.

But I I reckon I hear it a fair bit, and I actually caught myself

when I when I say goodbye to you that I'm like, hey, mate. Safe travels.

Oh, you did? Yeah. I did. And I've caught myself and I was like think

I'm gonna deliberately not drive safe? Exactly right. And then I was like and then

I combined that with, let's call it Doris, a lady at FoodWorks, and and

she was like, yeah, stay safe. Yeah. You stay safe too. And I'm like, why

do we use human beings, because I think it's more common than what we think,

for us to sign off like that in the state of people, you know, stay

safe. Is it the doom and gloom of the news? Is it the

negative bias that we have? Is it the way we're wide? Jesus, it's a

deep one. I don't know. It's probably like when you think you're gonna buy a

new car, and so you research that car and then all the you see

all those cars everywhere. Whereas previously, you never saw them. It's what your focus is.

This is true. So I don't I'd yeah. I I will now. Now that you

brought it to my attention, I'll I'll stay safe. We'll be safe

people every year. I know. I know. Does that mean not, like, not take risks

or not put yourself out there? Just stay home and do

nothing. Yeah. I mean, it's a kind it's a kind sentiment to say to someone.

Right? Yeah. It is. But it's also, like, a negative sentiment as well. It's

crap. Like, surely there are better phrases that we can come out with. Go out

there and rip the guts out alive. %. Imagine that. See you, Sadie.

Foot forward. Yeah. Yeah. See you, Sadie. Stay adventurous. Push

those boundaries. Yeah. Step outside that comfort zone. See you,

Sadie. Be awesome today. Wait. Donate. Yeah. There are so

many. Imagine if you signed off like that. Right? Like, you cross someone in the

path down the in the community, and you have an awesome chat. You catch up,

and you turn and go, hey, Sadie. Be awesome today. And you walk off

and like, what? And you go but you're prepping for spring, you step. You go,

you know what? I am gonna be awesome today. Instead of stay safe, yeah, yeah,

I'll put my self belt on. I'll Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna watch out for the

negative things in the world that might come and get me. You know what I

mean? It's yeah. It just caught my eye. So now I was thinking, what

else could I have said to you the other day when I said safe travels?

I could've gone, you know what I mean? You could've said enjoy the three hour

drive. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, thank you. Enjoy some day time and switch

off. You know what I mean? Enjoy your thoughts. I don't know what it could've

been, but You didn't need to say you don't need to say anything, though. Yeah.

Like, why do we need to sign off or or think we need to finish

with something? So you say, have fun. Catch up. Yeah. Oh, you don't need it.

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know either. But I reckon now, now they've brought

to your attention. Oh, no. And I reckon if you listen, you're probably going, you

know what? I do hear people all the time and going, yeah, stay safe. And

it links with everything else when you talk about, you know, a lot of times

we say stop saying, be careful. Yeah. You know what I mean? When we get

taught that a lot. Stop saying to your kids, hey, be careful. And that's so

true. Instead of saying to your kids, hey, be adventurous or, you know what I

mean? You can say be mindful, but stay curious. Yeah. Be adventurous. Go

get them. Live life. Yep. You've got this. Like, I like

all them. Yeah. I don't know. Or you don't even need to finish if you

don't. If you can't think of one, just don't say it. Just don't say it.

You don't see it. Yeah. You actually don't need to give someone a life lesson

every time you say goodbye. This is true. Like, you don't need to.

So I'm sitting here as always, you know, you're gonna bring up. And then you're

like, you don't even need to say it. You can just eliminate that from

your dialogue. If you were gonna say one, what's gonna be

your one? Have a great day. Rip the guts out of it, love. That's

Rip the guts out of it, love. I would

never say that to anyone. I'm gonna hold you to that. And every time we

say goodbye to someone down in Maryland next week, rip the guts out of it,

love. Never say that to anyone. Oh, that is brilliant.

I absolutely love it. And then it got me thinking. I'm I'm reading a

book at the moment called humankind, and, there's a beautiful section there

about how we are news. Right? So there's a

quote in there that says, news is to the mind is what sugar is

to the body. Alright? And, you know, they're still in today's

day and age, they're still 93% of the world's population watch the news daily.

What? Yep. Is that a serious stat? Crazy. You didn't make that up. No. I

didn't make that up. Ninety three percent. Yep. Of the adult population, don't be right,

93% of the adult population watch the news daily, which blows

my mind still because I haven't watched it in ages. Oh.

And then you start thinking about the news, right, it is because

crap sells, scare tactics sells, negativity sells,

war, this going on. And I'm like, why are we watching it? I don't

I that's blown me away. That's that. I mean, I reckon that's one of the

reasons why Doris in IGA Foodworks is all about Stay safe. Stay

safe because I guarantee Doris is watching the news because that that generation

definitely watches the news. How I suppose a lot of other generations now don't need

to watch the news because you've got you're consuming news

on every platform you're already on. Exactly right. So now maybe that 93%

doesn't doesn't surprise you much because every time you flip

your social media on, you get into some form of news is what's going on

everywhere. Right? So you're always gonna be true or might not be. Yeah. You know?

And I suppose that's why I feel probably older generations may just

watch the news Yeah. Because they feel it's credible. Yeah. And there's no

no fake news or What a weird notion that we want to feel as

though we need to know what's going on in the world Yeah. Even though

it doesn't really impact on us too much at all in in our own lives.

It doesn't. And even though it is so negative Well, and it just

consumes you. Yeah. I feel it's adding something extra to worry

about that you can't control. Yeah. You've got no control over these things that are

happening and, yeah, some things are nice to know, but when most of it I

think the news is, like, 85% negative. Yep. Like, it's not

always good to consume that because it it's like in it's like in a job

where you see a lot of trauma and things like that. You can only deal

with it for so long. I know when you're doing well-being and, AP of

well-being that there's only so much you can physically take as a human being. I

remember the mental health issues and things I was dealing with when I was still

teaching. You try your best to remove it so

when you come home, it doesn't affect you. Yeah. But it still does. Oh, it

does. There's certain things you can't unsee or unheard, you know, that you can't get

away from. So by looking and watching the news every day, you're

actually putting more on your plate of things that you can't

control that are gonna affect your mood, stay safe instead of ripping the

guts out of it. As it was

said And it filters through like we're away, and my niece is 14 and she

wanted to go for a run by herself, because she's right into her fitness, and

she wanted to go for a run down a place called Motts Beach, beautiful little

trail. We're in Mala. It's a safe town. But my mother-in-law was

like, oh, I don't think that's a good idea. You know, I don't think that

you I don't think you should be running by and then she said, are you

gonna take your phone? And Tilly was like, no. No. I don't wanna run them

on my phone. So critique. Well done. I love that. Easy. That's right. But the

the negative bias Yeah. At the moment was like, no. No. I don't think that's

a good idea and planted the seed in Tilly's mind then that it wasn't the

right thing to do. Something could happen to you. You know what I mean? I'm

like, oh, man. What's it doing to us? I actually sort of get that from

being a female. Like, I don't know. It's yeah. I think

it is. It's so different. Yeah. And there are probably things that we've never had

to think about, and we probably won't. Yeah. But that's the

reality. And the thing is the news is reporting people getting abducted in those bits

and pieces, and then it plants people's in their minds, and then it filters through.

And next thing we're worrying about, I don't wanna I shouldn't go for a run

because this might happen. Did she go for a run by herself?

No. She went for a run, but she didn't go by herself while I was

there. Oh. Yeah. So she didn't do it, which is interesting. She went for a

run, but went went with, with the ministers and her sister. But, yeah, it's interesting.

So then I got thinking about right. And I know we don't want to talk

about the news in this podcast. Sorry, mate. You put the whole thing up.

Stay safe. But then I was thinking about

imagine how what would happen if the news

completely flipped and did nothing but

positivity. Right? So imagine this every single night, the

news is purely just awesome, good news stories from little country towns, people

doing awesome things with people, kids doing amazing achievements,

people helping people out. You could do a good news story and little it it'd

be amazing. Right? That'd be great. It'd be great. And I was telling

my missus about it. We'd probably tune in with the family then. We'd go,

kids, news is on. Even if it was once a week, like positive

Wednesday, positive news or something like that. But then if the news

completely scrapped and just refused to report about anything negative, so we're not

gonna report crime, we're not gonna report war, we're not gonna report all these things.

Yeah. Would people people are never gonna stop doing it, but I

reckon it might reduce the rates of people being absolute idiots and not because

it's not glorified. It's not you know what I mean? They're not the name's not

up in lights and the other shooters in The US and those sorts of things

want a little bit of fame and glory at some stage. Yeah. In a in

a Yeah. In a weird situation. Right? Way. Yeah. So I was like, I wonder

what that would do society for over the next three or four years and it

was constant and we were intentional with it. They stopped reporting on

negativity. Would we start to turn as a society and think more positively?

Would we have a more of a positive mindset than a negative mindset? Doris

Turner, that lady in in Nigeria and go, go get them. You know what I

mean? Like, you know, be kind. It's gonna stay safe. Be

kind. I don't know. To be honest, I reckon a lot of people like

watching the news, and they like the negative stuff.

But it's weird. It's not I don't know why. Well, obviously,

having a positive news show, it it wouldn't work because if it

did, they would have already had it. Because obviously, that's all I've said. That's all

people don't wanna watch. No. Because, yeah, frustrates me. Yeah. Well Yeah. But

I'm a good change. Family time, honestly, well, I'd give my family around the kids.

If it was nothing but good news stories and people doing awesome things and acts

of bravery and courage and determination and kindness

Yep. It'd be a great thing for you to sit down and watch as a

family because your kids will learn so much about it and look up to people

and learn and Think what's possible or what could they do to

help other people out because they're actually saying that. It's definitely

negative stuff. It'd definitely grow a sense of community way

better than what what it currently is because everyone have their mindset, right, this is

what people do. We do things to help our community. Yep. Yeah. So

I actually wonder if there's something that that schools could do. Yeah. It's good. That's

where that's a lot of this. Yeah. So I wonder. Yep. So I wonder if

there's something that schools could do to be

intentional with good news stories every day, and it might be, you know, for

example, Borgy School did the 20 of play every day. Yep. Right? Or where the

schools could bring in, you know, it might be ten minutes, whatever it might be,

or in their partial care classroom, and they just

share positive news stories and positive things every single day.

Imagine the repetition in a child's mind Won't take long for a child to go,

this is how we're supposed to be. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. And I I like that.

It was very similar to what we experienced in Warrnambool, I suppose, you know, when

the that congress Yep. Because all the leaders in their their

mission for the rest of the year is to go back and create something in

their community, and then they share it. Yep. And I think that's why

when they do their final screening at the end of the year when the 30

different schools do their two minute video, there's thirty

two minute videos of amazing kids in grade six

impacting their communities. Yeah. That's that's why something like

that's so powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's a pretty

simple thing to do. Such a simple thing to do, isn't it? And it's such

a powerful thing to do. And it's such a simple thing to do for schools

to do, and then you'll learn about it and you have a chat about it.

But it's also a super, super thing for parents to do. And I don't know.

I don't do it. I'll put my hand up. Why don't we do that as

parents? Why don't we be intentional and just share a good news

story with our kids every single day? Research one, share it, talk about it,

how they went about it, the outcomes from it. Well, probably doesn't I'll I'll I'll

go a step further. Yeah. And I spoke about this yesterday in the workshop I

did when, and you've seen a couple times when I was last teaching, I I

tried to do, like, a daily challenge, one kind of thing you roll the dice.

Yes. Yep. I wouldn't start it now just every day. So I would

if I was listening to this as a parent or something like that, I would

do it once a week. Have one set day because you don't wanna put too

much burden. That's it. It's another thing to do. Yeah. Whereas if you've just got

one thing for the week, you know, that you can do to help somebody else,

a good news story, and then maybe a good news story here or someone Mhmm.

That's a lot more achievable. And it's I think it's a better way of going

about it because otherwise, you end up putting pressure on people and it ends

up becoming a chore instead of a positive thing to do. And then think

about those parents cause the parents would be researching. Right? Yeah. They'd they'd

be scanning the world for those positive news stories they can share with their

kids once a week. So all of a sudden you've then got parents scanning the

world %. And having that rose colored lenses on Yep. Going, hey. This

and there's so much good stuff going on. I can actually it'd have a really

positive impact on parents' mental health as well, I reckon. It would. It would. I

think, that's like stuff coming back to our curriculum for each

different years. There's different walls that we've got where one's like

something you share and you stick it up on the wall that you're proud about

yourself or Yeah. There's another one, the wall of failures where things you've tried that

haven't worked, but you celebrate them. Obviously, a gratitude void, all these different

things. It could be like a a good news story or a kindness wall

Yeah. Where you share things that you've done to other people to be

kind or that you've heard about that maybe inspire you or your family.

You know what? I'm gonna do it. Good on And I did plan this. This

this podcast has got left of center. Stay safe though.

I'm gonna give it a go. Good. Good. I wanna give it a go. Once

a week, I'm gonna bring it in, and I'll keep reporting how it's going. Anyone

else out there is listening if you wanna accept that challenge of just throwing it

out your way. Yeah. Try once a week,

be intentional with it and share a good news story with your kids,

and see what it does to the mindsets and your mindset and and dynamics.

It'd be interesting. I love that. It doesn't even have to be experiment. Yeah. It

doesn't even have to be at home. It could be at a workplace. That's true.

You know what I mean? Like, how many workplaces have morning check ins

or meetings? I'm just thinking of schools. You know, you'll

ask because you had meetings galore. Yep. Why not

somebody share a positive news story or something nice? You know? I

Yeah. I love that idea. Yeah. I think Yep. Kick off every meeting with

something with something positive that's happening around the world where we might be in it.

Or in the school. I know they do that a little bit, but, yeah, I

just think being intentional with it or in your groups or with your classes.

Yep. I love it. And this sort of links in with the next thing I

wanna talk about because you're talking about mindset and your thoughts. Right? And obviously, you

know, Doris's mindset was such a good Doris. I've got I'm

running the Doris and all boss. Oh, hey, Doris. I've brought her out to you,

missus. The guts out of the love. It's the last song I'm gonna

say. I love it. And then I I was reading something the other

day about, this massive state they've done about the actual

the causes of stress in human beings. Right? And there was

they've come they've nailed it down to three. Three main causes of stress. Number one

was repressed emotions. Mhmm. Right? And if you think about that, so when we

are stressed, we generally do tend to bottle our

emotions up, don't we? You never let anyone know that you are a little

bit stressed. You only ever let people know when you are

fully, it's too late. When you're bubbling heat, when it's overflowing, you're like,

it's complete because you think you can manage it yourself, you stay quiet,

and you repress those emotions. Imagine if you were really good at,

oh, I'm just a little bit, it's just creeping on a little bit, everybody wants

to tell the world Yeah. And get it out, but we don't as human nature

and we try and do it ourselves and be macho, etcetera, etcetera. So the number

one thing is repressed emotions. Mhmm. So on that, I

love what we do because a lot of what we do is encouraging young people

especially to talk about their emotions through play and those sorts of things. Not even

just young people. Like, I just know it's in the I did the full day

workshop I did yesterday Yeah. That the staff didn't realize they were doing

it. But by the end, they had so many conversations around that.

Yeah. You know, you know, and as we talk about, we don't need to label

it. That this is the ways to reduce your stress or get it out. It's

just doing it. And that's actually what occurs. Yeah. And even though I've I've had

a few conversations with you lately about my seven year old and, you

know, trying to encourage him to talk about his emotions because he's he's up and

down a little bit at the moment. So, yeah. So number one stress people

is is repressed emotions. The second one is lack of connection.

Alright? The second main cause of stress is lack of connection. That lack of connection,

I think affects everything. Yeah. Not just stress, lack of connection,

loneliness, like happiness, anything. If you're

not connected to the world or yourself, fuck. Yep. You're in trouble now. Yeah.

You really are. Yep. You're in trouble. The third one I just wanna link back

to the stay safe and the negative self talk is negative self

talk. And there's a the beautiful line here is when you have negative self talk,

you constantly have a war zone going on in your head. So

obviously, it's gonna cause stress. You have 60 to

70,000 thoughts a day. Yep. Mind blowing for starters. Yeah.

Imagine as I say, you have 60 to 70,000

thoughts a day. So how's your balance going? You know what I mean? That's why

mindfulness is such, like, a huge topic. Yeah. Because

sometimes you just need to stop those thoughts and give everything a break.

Yeah. And I'm still trying to sit there this morning. I was literally running this

morning and I was like, right. What was and I knew knowing I was coming

to the studio and talking about this, I was like, what what's my balance

currently like out of those sixty to seventy thousand? And I'm a,

like, I'm a pretty positive guy, you know, I try to be, but then I

had a really honest appraisal myself. And if I'm being really honest,

I I worry a lot. Like, I worry about the future. I worry about

finances. I worry about my health. Those sorts of bits and pieces. I try to

preach so much. I don't expect the small stuff, but in reality, I actually find

it a little bit hard not to sweat the small stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good.

Well, don't have to acknowledge that. No. Thank you. That's alright. And

yeah, I was sitting there going, man, it'd be a really good thing for everyone

to do is just to sit back and go, right, what's my balance like of

those thoughts and be honest with yourself. And I did that this morning and now

like, man. Right. Come on. Flip the flip the

script a little bit and have a bit more positive self thoughts in there. Yeah.

Yeah. And yeah, just thought that LinkedIn, the the

way society's created at the moment, the news and everything else isn't helping

anybody with those negative self talk. And I wonder

if the news flipped the script, it might help. It won't flip the script and

I agree it's not helping people. Yeah. But that's where no one's gonna help

anyone. You've gotta do it yourself. Yeah. You've gotta have those intentional conversations with

you. And I gotta do that all the time. Like, I worry about being late.

Like, I stress about that. Like, being on time making Yep. I worry

about that so much. And I can't not. I don't know why. But

that's just that's just me. Yeah. Then I try and I know that that's not

gonna change. I've tried it. That's just who I am. So I've gotta be early,

but then I try and focus on the positives or I celebrate. And this is

probably one of the big things I feel. Celebrate all your wins. Yeah.

Good. You know? And that's that's how you start talking yourself better. Mhmm.

Because you're not just going, oh, that's I'll move on to the next thing.

Well done. That's awesome. I crossed that off. I did that. You did a really

good job. Celebrate it. You don't need to celebrate with the world or share on

social media. No one cares. Alright? But these are things that you need to do

as an individual because the more you do that, that's when the

self talk changes. Yeah. Because you remember those positive things because you're really

proud of yourself. But if you don't celebrate them, then, yes, you will worry

about those other things. And I'll be stressed about turning up on time or is

everything gonna be right because that's all I worry about. Yeah.

They're the main things I'm really focusing and sort of celebrating their front of mind.

Yeah. I love it. And I do that, and it's a bit dorky, a bit

daggy, but when you do it more is you go for I go for a

run and I push myself a little bit harder or I don't give up with

it. And I say to myself, man, proud of you. Proud of yourself. You should

well done. You know, that's awesome. Good job. You got out and you did it.

There's moments in time you can't be bothered and you go, nah, bugger it. Get

up and go. And then I literally say to myself, man, good job. Well

done. And I I always wonder if anyone else is doing that,

to be honest with you. But I'd say so. When you when you work your

ass off at the gym, do you get in the car on the way home?

And be honest with you, do you get in the car in your way home

and go, good job, dad. That was awesome. Well done. Yeah. Some days, like, dominate.

Yeah. Like, you know, some days you do. Some days, you don't. But, some days,

like, mate, well done. Yeah. Like, crush that. And no one needs to know you're

doing it, mate. I don't tell everyone what I did. No. But I just like

so you just surprise yourself sometimes because you we don't ever push

ourselves hard enough. Yeah. And you keep got so much more in the tank. And

so sometimes when you do it, you're like, but that's why I personally

like going to a gym because there's other people there and you've got

that set time and you do push yourself harder. Yeah. Not saying I don't

push myself hard in all different aspects, but I've found, yeah, when I'm actually

in a set class with other people and it's all designed, I work

way harder. Yeah. I love it. Personally, that's I've I know

what works and what doesn't. And people always say to me, oh, yeah. But you

could train yourself. I say, yeah. But I'd I could, but there's no way

near I work as hard as I have. So I think that's, again, people

knowing what works for them in all different areas of life. Like, if

you're if you're an entrepreneur and you're not very motivated, then, well,

maybe you need to try and go to a commercial sorry. Like, a

WeWork or something like that. Like, get around other people or go and work

for someone else. Like, find ways that you're gonna be the best possible version of

yourself. It doesn't mean just fitness. Yeah. And I think

that's a testament to what we're doing here that I work harder

now because you're here Yep. Because you've got a partner and you're helping each other

out. I think everyone, you need some sort of partner

or training buddy or something to push each other. Yep. Keep you

accountable. Yeah. Keep you accountable. But also, yeah, motivate you and want you to get

better. Whereas if you're always just doing things by yourself, you don't have that connection

element that we spoke about. But also, yeah, you end up just

idling and you get comfortable because you don't have to push it. And

sometimes it's hard and when no one's making you do it Yeah. It doesn't happen.

You know, if you link back the stress to that training partner as well, you'd

you'd have less negative self talk because you you're in the you're struggling and your

partner would go, oh, you've got this. Keep going. Believe in yourself. And that makes

you go, oh, you know what? Yeah. Believe in myself. Push myself a little bit

harder for sure. You'd probably turn to your partner and talk, oh, man, I'm knackered.

I'm stuffed. I mean, I can't get through this. You're talking about your emotions a

little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. You can probably link that in the stress case. For

example, this morning, I went to the gym and the guy I was training with,

he's stronger than me and he just loaded up the bars. Like, I'll I'll just

do it, whereas I wouldn't have done that. Yeah. Right. I wouldn't have put those

weights on it. He stretched the comfort zone. He did. And, you know, I was

like, well, that's where it is. I can't be bothered taking them off, so I'm

just gonna put it. I'm probably more lazy than That's all my that's all my

rotating cup. I think it's probably more a lazy thing. That's all I wrote. That's

all I wrote. That's all I wrote. I wrote it back. But, yeah, I think,

yeah, that's where having good people in your life that will help you be the

best version of yourself or push you. Yeah.

Yeah. That's I just think that's that connection piece. Yeah. I love

it. Ran a workshop the other day with, about a hundred

student leaders, super powerful. And one student stood up and we

were talking about goals and and goal setting, those sorts of things. And beautiful

kid, and you turn your city sick. Paul, can you give me some advice? How

do I go about turning my dreams into reality? I was like, woof.

Jesus. I know. Mate, that's a bit above our pay grade. Isn't it? I know.

I was like, man, that is dead. You just say stay safe, buddy, and move

on. Go to all of us. Go to all boss

IGA. Yeah. I was like, man. So first of all,

great question, and obviously great question that I noticed. And then I threw it

out to the crowd. I was like, right. Let let's spit balls. We started putting

heaps of word words on the board, about how you could do that. And we

and we nailed it down to three as we've clicked a hole. And I love

it. And I just wanted to share it with people what we end up with

because I think it's really simple. So we count with the three c's. And

in order to turn your dreams into reality, the three c's, you need courage,

Confidence. Confidence and consistency. Yeah. Very good.

Yeah. And then you break them down, right, and for a young person to understand

or any human being to understand that, first and foremost, you need courage

to create your dream. Number one. Number one. You need to be brave enough to

go, okay, this is my dream, and now I need to go after it. Yep.

Alright. So I need to need to be brave enough to to change pivot and

change direction and go after that dream. You need confidence in your abilities

and your skill set, whatever it might be. Because no one else will give you

those. No one else will give you those. If you don't believe in yourself, then

it's never gonna work. No. And then the third one is obviously consistency. You've

you've you've got the courage, you've taken the step, you believe in yourself, and I

think I can do this, I can do this, let's give it a crack, but

don't give up after the first week, don't give up after week two, and be

super consistent with your efforts. And

those three c's should lead to turn your dreams

into a reality. And there's no time frame on it. And that's the thing I

said to the young kid, I said, there's no time frame on that, but, you've

gotta be consistent for as long as it takes. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And then I start thinking about our own lives, like, you think about what you

did, you left teaching, right, and everyone told you're an

idiot. You're gonna play games. Right? Everyone told you're an idiot. You're gonna go

play or what? But you had the courage to go, nah, bugger. I'm doing it.

And then you also had the confidence in yourself with the confidence

in the play Yep. In the notion to do it, and then you've worked your

backside off for nine years now and being super consistent with it and look where

it's led to. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. But I think that's

that's the hardest part. Like, it yeah. If I look back at it now, I

don't know. I I wouldn't be able to start what nine years ago, I wouldn't

be able to do that now. I was just in a my life stage and

have kids and I was able to do it. And I think, yeah, adorn

adorn me now if, like, I had that idea. I Yep. I don't physically think

I could do it. If you had that idea now, you'd you'd sit in a

safe space and you'd stay teaching because the family and the money and the income,

that sorts of thing? Yeah. Knowing what I know, what I've been through and the

amount of work and, how hard it was, I don't think I could do it

again. Alright. Interesting. I don't think I could physically.

Yeah. I yeah. I don't think I could do that. Yep. Even though now I

reckon you've learned I've learned so much. So much. Yeah. But

just yeah. Just the highs and the lows and the effect

that probably had on me as an individual and the people in my life. Yeah.

I'm very proud of it now, and Mhmm. I love what we do. Yeah. But

if you if you could say go back, would you start it again? I don't

know if I actually Oh, really? That surprises me about you, to be honest with

you. No. I'll be honest. Yeah. I love I love that. Where I am at

my life at the moment Yeah. There's no way known I could be selfish

for those eight or nine years Yeah. And just be

solely focused on me and what like, what not solely focused, but

yeah. Like, it consumed me. Yeah. Okay. Like, and it it still sort of

does, but nowhere near as like it did. Yep. But aren't you

glad that you're looking back now and go, I'm so glad I did it. Every

night's been a tough road, but I'm glad I've done it. I'm really proud of

it, and I'm so glad I did it. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. But if

you're asking if I'd started now, I don't think I could. No. Interesting. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I like it. And I think that's one of the things now that

people are really curious. Like, yesterday at lunch, when we're having lunch with the staff

where I was working, yesterday, everyone's really curious about how did it

start, what did you do. Yeah. And it's nice talking about it,

but it also reminds me, like, far out. Like, that's been a really

hard, hard slog. Yes. Yeah. Because I get asked that a lot. How did you

end up doing this from where you were? Yeah. And if I'm putting into those

three categories, I can now say it to them. I say, you know what? I

obviously, the right opportunity came along with you. But I had to be

I had to be courageous because I had a bloody good job that was paying

really well and very safe and, you know, those sort of things, that I worked

my ass off to get towards. So I had to be courageous. I had to

believe in myself and have the confidence that, yeah, I can get up on stage

and and do keynotes and run workshops and Yep. And do what I gotta do.

And now I'm living and breathing every single day. So I'm being consistent with it.

I'm reading, I'm learning, I'm, you know, everything I possibly can to be the best

presenter that I can be. Yeah. So the three c's. I

don't know. That question I gotta ask was was really simple yet powerful. I like

that they came up. They came up with the big yellow. Those. Yeah. Good way

to do it too. Throw it out to them. Yes. So you're trying to think

on yourself. A %. I was like, oh, I yeah. I was trying to think

of something inspirational to say to them at the time. You know, how do I

go about turning my dreams in reality well, kid? You know what I mean? Just

gotta believe in yourself. Bloody good question, right? It was a great question, wasn't it?

And, yeah. And and what the notion we come at three c is so easy

to remember, and I hope that those things will stick with those, you know, hundred

kids forever, and and spread on. But, yeah, just something I wanted to

share on on the pod. Oh, that's it. Very nice way to, segue out

of it. Yeah. It is. From where we started, I was like

it's like, where are you taking this one down? I don't know where I was

saying this one. You know me, mate. Just things happen in my life. I wanna

wanna talk about them all. I thoroughly enjoy it. I enjoyed all of it. Yeah.

And we're, talking about stress and things like that. We've got a really

busy three weeks coming up and, yeah, you gotta make smart

decisions. So we're gonna we're gonna have a couple of weeks off the podcast just

because, yeah, we're away for three weeks straight. Mhmm. And

and we can't we can't pack up the podcast equipment in the studio and take

it with us on these little road trips on board with the We can't. We

don't have to pack it up and send it up again. No. But we

should have we should have some really cool things to talk about upon our return,

because we are going to the nether regions of the state. We are going to

the very very tip down in Mallacoota. Yeah. That's how far away that was. It's

a long way. Six and a half hours. I mean, it's been a bit of

a drive. And then we're heading back over Bendigo

Way and other places, and we are all over the state in the coming weeks,

which we'll be And we're also at Brighton, Mount Beauty, and Wodonga. Yep. That's a

lot of time in the car together. A lot of time, we're

gonna have conversations. Yeah. We'll have we'll have, probably a couple of weeks off.

We'll be back soon. We promise. Stay safe everybody. Take

care. Now be joking. Drink the guts out of the garden. Live life and be

adventurous. Take care everyone. Cheers.