Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you by the

SchoolOfPlay, co hosted by Dale Sidebottom and Paul

Campbell. Each week we'll bring to you tips, strategies and ideas on

how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you share

it with. All right, everyone, welcome back to the podcast

Energetic radio, episode number 364. My name is Dale

Solbottom, joined by the one and only Pistol, Paul Campbell. Oh,

Pistol Paul Campbell. That's a new one. I like it. I thought I'd just throw

that in. Someone once said that

I look like Paul Rifle. That's not. Sorry, it's not a

compliment. I don't think Paul listens. No, I

don't think Paul listens. When he was a cricketer or an. Umpire, I think, well,

who knows? Probably my gray hair, probably bloody umpire. But he's

someone. Once, not that long ago, Tim was like, you remind me of poor Rifle.

I'm talking, like, within the last 12 months, someone said this to me. And then

you've just come with Pistol. Pistol might stick now, actually.

Don't mind it. Hey, load them up.

How are you? Great, man, I'm awesome, thanks, mate. I'm actually really good. Good, yeah.

I've actually come in and I'm up and about, to be honest with you. Good.

Well, you just. You have just come from doing a workshop. I have, I have.

And anyone that. Well, I suppose probably a lot of people probably haven't. And I

know public speaking for a lot of people is daunting, but it's also

very addictive. Like, a lot of times we'll rock up, you know, if we're speaking

week on, week out, and you're pretty flat in the morning, but after

half an hour, bang, you're on. Oh, I couldn't agree more. You just feel great.

And you generally can't wait to get in the car and give you, like, I

give you a call, you give me a call. Like yesterday, you did one by

yourself and you called me. How'd it go? Yeah. And you're like, oh, man. Really?

Only took me a while to get them. And same today, as soon as I

got in the car, gave you a call. How'd it go, mate? This went well.

This went well. This was awesome. You're right. It's definitely the

energy you give out. You definitely get it back in spades, don't you?

I actually had that written down today. It's like. Like, just. I don't

know. I'm up and about. Right. I'm bloody

excited which is good because our bloody podcast is called Energetic Radio.

But I was driving home, I had a smile on my face. I was up

and about just because everything landed so well. And just the.

The comments that you get back from the group, like the, you know, I mean,

and I had one. Had one comment that really stuck in today. And I said,

you know, name a feeling you experienced today. Now we finish off that way. Yeah.

And she. She stuck. She was like, bittersweet. I was like, oh,

never had that before. Like a warhead. Oh, jeepers Christ.

Starts off sour, finishes. Yeah. She was like, bittersweet. And I was like, the a.

I've never heard that elaborate. And she just went. She goes, listen, we had such

a good time today. And, you know, you've really brought to everyone's attention and just

brought us back into the moment and just to really soak up the next

14 weeks we've got left together. It was a year 12

workshops, and she was just like. And I'm just sitting here

watching the laughter and the smiles and the connection and everyone

hugging and. This from year 12. This from year 12. Wow. God, they're

aware. They're so aware. It was such a beautiful comment. And she's like. And I'm

just sitting here watching it all, and I'm just like, this is a bittersweet moment.

You know, I tell the students to stop and smell the roses, right? And she

was like, I'm just stopping. I'm just stopping right now. I'm soaking it all

in. And for me, it's bittersweet. I love this moment, but I know

it's going to come to an end. And. Yeah. And the whole year she was

like, thank you. But, yeah, I was just reflecting that, going, man, that's sick. It's

pretty cool when you have that impact on. Yeah. You create a space that

gets a response like that. That's bittersweet. Yeah.

And so, yeah, I'm up and about. And then I was thinking all those things,

like when you're. When you do something kind for someone or you just have a

positive impact or something like that, you bloody feel good. Of course you do.

You feel so good. And I think it's one of the best feelings in the

world when. When the. When the good feeling comes, doing that for other people.

But, yeah, anyway, mate, I've hijacked the start. You're going to intro it, talking about

how I'm feeling. But no, I'm up and about and I'm in a really good

mood. I love that, too. And, like, Yesterday I did a corporate one at Peter

McCallum, the founder the Cancer foundation, which is one of the most

incredible buildings they've gone to. And the

corporates that I did it for, I don't think they've done sort of much

of. I wouldn't call it team building, but sort of the connection and getting

around each other and it was exactly the same. Like, there's a lot of hard

work I felt at the start to get them. Yeah. But then the last 20

minutes, once I had them, the room was just crazy. You're like,

wow. And they didn't. They didn't realize they needed it. No one realized what they

needed to have it. I suppose. Yeah. So, yeah, it was really nice, I suppose,

when you're just talking about kindness. I've had a really nice day too, because

a couple of days ago, two big pallets of books arrived

at my place, so we had to pack them away. And

it's one of the most gratifying experiences when you can reach out to

people that have helped you become probably

the person you are or given you opportunities when people didn't have to. So I

feel, you know, I think our business is where it is now because there have

been a lot of people along the way that have shown kindness and support

when others haven't. That's fine. They don't need to. So, yeah, today I've

had three or four telephone calls and two or three emails with those

people just saying thank you. And I would love to

send a couple of copies of our book. And just writing the notes in them,

it just reminds you of, like, you know, those sliding door moments.

And they'd. You express that to these people, but

they don't know the magnitude that, like, particularly a couple of them have had

on the business. Like, we would not be sitting here right now

if two of the people I spoke to today hadn't have given me a chance

a few years ago. Yeah. Like, it just. There would not even be a chance.

Yeah. Like, it just wouldn't even be there. And they explain it to them,

but they don't know, but they don't do it. And because of that.

But now you've had the opportunity to make them feel

the way that I'm currently feeling because you've reached out and said, thank you, and

here's a book and yada, yada, yada, and. And they gave

you that leg up or that support years ago. But now they're getting that same

experience. I'm feeling because, like, man, I had a really good impact on this person,

look what's now, you know, the result of me showing that kindness.

And for the rest of their day, mate, because you've reached out and said thank

you to them and this is where we're at now. For the rest of their

day, they're going to be sitting there going, oh, I feel good about myself. Yeah.

Yep. And they'll be more inclined to give another person a leg up and help

them out. It will. And yeah, it just makes me like. And that's where particularly

this one, like, spoke. How have you and Paul going and seeing your book? And

I said, mate, to be honest, there's probably only a reason this book's out there

and that Paul and myself are a thing is because of what you gave me,

you know, and when you think about it like that,

crazy how things happen, like, and it. And that's all just sort of sitting in

here because, yeah, you've been away and just thinking, wow, like, it's so many

things happen for a reason to get you where you are. Yeah. And I think

that's. It just all comes back to trying to be a really kind human

and doing things to help people. Not because you want something in return, but

because it feels good and you believe in people. So, yeah, I think

that's where, you know, writing this book between us, it's going to help a lot

of people, but it's also been a really nice sort of experience for me to

think back and think, right, how have I been able to get to where I

am now? And who are some people that have really helped me that didn't have

to. I didn't know from Bara Fish, you know, and, yeah, today

I've been able to have a conversation with a couple of them and it made

me feel bloody good. Not going to lie. And I'm sitting here as you were

talking about that, you know, you said a few times, like, Paul and I wouldn't

be sitting here right now. We actually, like. And that is crazy. It is crazy,

isn't it? And I want to get to a level. There's a favorite podcast

of mine called Two Bears and One Cave. Absolute piss. I have

a podcast and they're just two mates on it that have become

successful. You know what I mean? Business and become successful. And they just

had their birthdays. And this is the level that I want us to get to.

This is the level I want us to get to for their birthday.

So Bert or Tom, whichever one it was, they started buying each other gifts for

their birthday. All right. And for this Latest one, I think

it was, Bert got Tom. He literally gave a bloke. Tom's dream has always been

to have a race team. And so Bert

gave this bloke $100,000 as a birthday gift to

Tom, his podcast partner, his business partner, to

build him his dream race car and set up a whole race team. And then

he gave it to him as a surprise. And I'm sitting this morning listening to

his podcast going, oh, I can't wait to get to that level. Where else

are going wrong? Feliza's out there. I

can't wait to get to level. All right, We're a long way, I. Know, but

we're building. Imagine when it gets to that stage and we

remember these, you know, these beginnings, these humble

beginnings that we're having in our bunker we're sitting in right now. And to be

able to be able. To give someone in the back of. My shit, 100 grand

to give here. Oh, he give side of the ultimate birthday present. Here's a hundred

thousand dollar budget. Don't even worry about him. Just get us an office. Yeah,

get us a golf simulator. That's what I'd like probably more than

anything. Now, I was going to just

give people an idea of the book. Obviously, today is 23

January, so 23 June. Sorry, 23 June. Thank you.

That's why we're doing this together. So I was just going to flip to today's

book, the date and I'll read that out now in the book. Each month's

got a theme around, you know, what different life skills

we're working on. So, for example, like connection and kindness, empathy,

thankful and reflection, playful resilience, joy of giving, mindful

moments and so forth. And with that, each month, the stories

that relate to that play challenge are about different things.

They could be like sports stars, they could be planets, they could be

cartoon characters, movie stars. World events. World events.

And this one is different places around the world. So

for June23, this is all about

France's cafe culture. In France, the simple act of sitting in

the cafe, sipping coffee and people watching is a cherished

tradition. French cafe culture encourages people to slow down,

appreciate the moment and enjoy their own company. This practice celebrates

self appreciation and the joy of taking time for oneself without

rushing or distractions. I think a lot of people need that these days.

It's a reminder that we are worthy of our own time and attention.

Like Francis cafe culture. Let's celebrate ourselves today by taking a

few peaceful moments to relax and enjoy our own company. And

I think like before I get on this, I think we've just sort of done

that in our own not selfish way. But that's what a podcast is

like we're both talking about. And we've basically done that today.

You did it in the car when you finished your workshop. I did. And I

did it here today. Just sitting and just sitting.

What's happened? How do we end up here? So. And then. So then the

challenge. So. And this is probably a good one for everyone to do. It doesn't

mean just because you're listening today you need to do it. But the Savor the

moment challenge. Take a few moments to enjoy a quiet moment with yourself.

Whether a cup of tea or coffee or simply sitting

peacefully. If you have the ability to make your own way to a

beautiful spot with a view and savor the moment. Focus on being present.

Recognize how beautiful the world is around you and. And appreciate

this time that he's dedicated to you like the French. Allow yourself to

enjoy this pause as a way of honoring your presence and self worth.

And it should have had in there Honoring the moment.

So that's sort of what the book is to give people an idea and things

like that. But yeah, I thought that was very fitting with what we've just spoken

about. And that was not script at all. Which I love. We have no idea

what we're going to talk about. That was absolutely brilliant. I really

like that. Well done. That's cool. And it just goes show the bookies and all

just play. Yeah. There's obviously there's activities like that.

There's reflecting ones. But there's all different types of play. And sometimes

human beings just need that reminder. Hey, like that staff member today, it was like

how I just. I was. My whole workshop was direct at Utah students and the.

And the year 12 teacher came at the end and she was like I needed

that more than the kids. A few things you said really resonated and went shit,

I need to stop and smell the roses and have a bit more fun and

stop letting people steal my joy. And yeah. Yeah. So sometimes we

just need someone to remind us like us or our book just to stop at

some time 100. And that's the thing we play as well that it's not always

go, go, go. You know, you've got active play, you've got static play, you've got

creative play, imaginary play. Like there's so many different ways of

doing that. And I think that's what we've tried to incorporate in that Book. So

Last Shameless Plug. Both our books come out in three

days time. 365 days of play and the

Playful Astronauts. They are both available at. On.

Yeah, on Amazon, Booktopia, Barnes and Noble

and they're also available in Amber Press. Who are our publishers?

Our publishers? Yep. So go and check that out. You can grab them

anywhere around the world and they'll be posted to you. Yeah.

So pretty exciting. Awesome Christmas present. Great Christmas stock pollen. Now for

Christmas people get the Christmas shopping done out the way. God, those people that have

Christmas grind. Not cross my gears. It blows my mind how

people have got their Christmas shopping done already. I know some people that have already

got the Christmas shopping done. My wife's pretty good with it. Really? Yeah. She loves

it though. But you know what they miss out on? All the hustle bustle of

late night shopping. Christmas. No, it's the best. I hate that. Me and

the boys just go to chatty late nights. It was unreal. I never go to

a shopping center. I hate it. I hate everything about it. You love shopping though.

I do, but I know what I want and I just. Online demon. And if

I don't like it, I just. Just don't return it

anyway. That's a story for another day. That is a story for another day. What

do you got for us today, mate? You've always got something. I've always got a

little something happening. Give us some golden nuggets. Give us something. I'm

gonna throw something out here and ask you a question. That's the whole point of

the podcast. This is the whole point of a code. So first question that notes.

Do you think, do you think that a side order

of stubbornness is needed to be successful? Bloody

oath. It is 100. If you are not

stubborn, then you'll end up not getting anything done. You have to be

selfish. And that's hardest thing is if you want to be

successful and do something, you can't please everybody. And there will be

people that you upset or there'll be people that you let down.

Yeah. That's just the way human nature goes. If you try and please

everybody and you end up doing nothing and you end up pleasing no one.

So I think stubbornness is important. Yeah. Because I think that's how

people, they admire those traits in certain people when done

well. Just probably reflecting on mine that yeah, some of my

stubbornness wasn't good. But you learn from that and you try and get better at

things you're doing. But yeah, without that you will not be able to do

Anything. Yeah, because not many people would put stubbornness as

an incredibly important character trait to be successful, would they?

And that's what got me thinking about that one. But you're right, you need it.

Because chances are when you start something new, it's going to fail.

You won't see any results for a long time. You've got to keep showing

up. You got to get. And things might not go your way, and you've got

to be stuck. Stubborn in the fact that, man, I know. I believe this can

work, and I know it can work. So I'm going to be stubborn here, even

though half people are telling me it's a dumb idea. Your parents, when you said

you're going to quit teaching and do a play consultant or play games, you're an

idiot. Didn't even know what a play consultant was. I made that up eventually, so

at least I could call myself something. You know what I mean? But. Yeah, but

your stubbornness in inverted brackets and commas legend here. You know, the amount of

apps you developed. And then I started doing some research on this. Like the Wright

brothers, they invented planes. Yeah, they. And I didn't know this, they took

multiple spare parts with them on every single flight because they

knew they were going to crash and they'd have to rebuild to be able to

fly back home where they. Where they landed from. Wow. I know, right? And so

imagine that. Imagine bloody going, right, I'm going to build a plane. Everyone's like, you

guys are idiots. I'm packing spare parts into this plane because we know we're going

to crash. Well, now make it heavier also. It's a bit. And they.

And they rebuilt numerous times. You got people like, you know, Martin Luther King, Abraham.

Abraham Lincoln, failed campaigns left, right and center. Were stubborn,

didn't believe in it. You know, Martin Luther King's campaigns,

heaps of violence. Everyone told him to stop what he was doing, kept on going,

and then eventually, you know, won the voting act and

people of all colors to vote and stuff. And. Yeah. And then so

when I got thinking that, and then I thought of you, and that's when I

brought it in today. You know, how many bloody apps have you

built and how many ideas have you had? And this whole. But it's all led

to here, right? And I'm like. I'm like. A lot stubbornness. You need a

side order of stubbornness. You probably need more than

something because a lot of it, you're doing things that

people don't. Like you don't. There's no blueprint to copy or anything and say,

yeah, I'd 100. And you can be stubborn and not be an. You

can still be stubborn and go, I believe in it, but still treat people kindly

and go to things right away. But just that. Yeah. And I don't know, then.

Then I was thinking, is it more stubborn? Can you replace that with

grit? Can you replace that resilience? Yeah, you probably can.

But I think stubbornness is a good way to. Because you don't believe. Hey, man,

I believe in this. I think you have to be stubborn because the time you're

spending in whatever you're doing, you've got to spend a lot of time in it.

So it's probably taking away from other areas and people in your life and

you. Like, without doing that, it won't work or you won't get whatever you're

thinking off the ground. So, yeah, it is stubborn and it does affect other people.

So I don't know. It's a juggling act. 100%. You have to be bloody

stubborn. Bloody ace. Now, my next question, that notice and not one word of a

lie links in with how you kickstart his pot off, which is. Sometimes we're on

the same page. Which is. Which is awesome, right? Pistol, bang, bang.

So no friends or family. All right. So no friends or family. So

friends or family there. Don't be upset when he doesn't include you in this. So

no friends or family. I want you to real life a couple of people

who have impacted your life. No friends or family.

Early days, two PE teachers and talk about them a little bit.

Graham Waite and Barry Simmons, they just believed in me,

like, even though I was quite out there. And, yeah, they

just believed in me always. And then they encouraged me to be a PE teacher,

said, dale, I think you'd be really good at it, and said, why don't you

do an AFL training ship at our school? And. And then they. They both went

to Ballarat Uni. So I went there and I wanted to have the same

impact on kids that they had had on me. Have you modeled.

Did early on, did you model your teaching bit on their teaching style, do you

reckon? Probably on their. The way they treated people? Yeah. Yeah.

Particularly kids. They were energetic, they'd show up. They gave

everybody a fair go. Yeah. And, yeah, I just really appreciate it. And I know

they really helped me out. And then there was a

lot. Some of these people become friends since then, but let's go. As long as

they weren't friends to begin with. Nah. So then there was a guy named

Matt Cullen who was one of my first ever career captains. And

he believed in me and he said, well, I'll give you a go at number

three, playing a grade at a pretty young age. And he ended up, he was

a teacher as well. And when I finished uni Heaven Bus Mates, we got stuck

in Thailand and had all these riots on. So I had all these job

interviews in like Melbourne and other places and we'll stuck there for three

weeks. I missed them all. And I remember coloring me up and saying,

mate, how's the job? I ain't going, I've got nothing. He goes, oh, if you

come back to Shep, I'm pretty sure I can get your job at Orvale Primary

School. And he goes, this is one condition, you have to come back and captain

coach crew club. I was happy to do that anyway, so he became

a really good mentor and helped me with my teaching and so forth. And then

the second last one's Jared Robinson. He.

I wouldn't even know how to run a workshop or how to set him up

or anything like that. We grew up together in Shepparton, but we weren't

close friends then. But yeah, obviously we talk every day now and become really good

friends. And then the last one is Brad Smith who

just recently wrote the Playful Astronauts with. And I was

doing boot camps years ago now, probably six years ago,

and Brad rode past up on a big bridge up top and goes, do you

do boot camps? They're not up there, buddy, come down here. And he started doing

boot camps. And like I did always back then is I'd always look at everyone's

like email signature. I was like, oh, I was very curious about what he did

and I ended up approaching him saying, I, I don't want you to pay for

boot camps or pt, but I want a week of, I want two hours of

your time every week and I want to learn from your mentor, you. And he

didn't, didn't do that because he just works with high end corporates and

CEOs. Anyways, I think he sort of liked me a little bit. I don't know.

Anyway, I sort of forced him to do it. And yeah, we've become really good

mates now and he's helped me actually figure out what it is that we do.

Yeah. And yeah, we've just created the Playful Astronauts together, which is a really

nice thing as well. So they're probably the people that, when I think about my

journey, that have influenced me along the way and

guided and supported me in different Things I need, they would be mine. Yeah, I

love it. What about you, mate? It's interesting because mine are a couple of teachers.

Like my first one is Mr. Cusack and Ms. Gunn. You talking about Mr. Cusack?

Yeah, I do know Mr. Cusack. And he was just a legend of a teacher,

especially in the year 12 English. And just. And how he's

impacted me was definitely the way that he built relationships with people and

the way he treated people. And he didn't. He saw the fun side of education.

And, you know, back when I was playing in school, I was playing

high level soccer and we'd go on trial for like Victorian schoolboys team.

And he never once. We used to miss his class all the time, but he

actually would clap us out the door. You know, he'd really encourage us

to go and do it. And yeah, just the way that he supported us, but

just the way he formed relationships with his students in class, how much fun he

made it. I think that's had a huge impact on me and the way that

I went about my teaching and the way that I set myself up. And Ms.

Gunn was the same. I became a PE teacher because of Ms. Gun.

The other one is a guy called John Patterson, who was

my first principal. Same deal. I was over in the States.

I was snowboarding my ass off in the States. And he gave me a call

and said, you know, I've. I've. I've heard you're okay as a human

being. I'm offering you a job. And I was like, I never, never met this

bloke before. And. And he said, I got a job waiting for you at Broadfield

Secondary College. And I was like, that's great, John, but I'm currently in Aspen snowboarding.

And he was like, oh, no, right. He said, when are you back? I said,

I'm not back till June. I said, halfway through the year, he goes, I'll hold

it for you. I was like, holy crap. And so I

had sliding doors moments because he was just the most phenomenal human

being. This is a school principal who my very first

meeting was. I got to the school and he took me to the pub for

a counter meal. So I probably should have done that. I know, it was

unreal. You just can't do that now. And then I left. I worked there for

six years and. And I left. And not

one with a lie. Every year he still calls him on my birthday.

That's amazing. This is amazing. So no text. No text call and

it's cool. How powerful. Doesn't forget it and John would be

late 70s now, I'd say. But in terms of

how it's impacted my life and lessons learned from it is just, yeah, the.

I don't know, really work on those relationships, I guess. But

he just had such a good culture set up at the school and it was

all about how he treated you from the get go and the trust and

yeah, it was just phenomenal. So it's funny that my three who aren't my mates,

they're not family and friends have impacted me. I don't know why I wanted to

ask that today that just. I'll come with a few notes and I was just

thinking about the other day and you know, how I walk and I think and

I process things and I just got thinking about people that have had an impact

on my life and it brought a smile on my face to recall and think

about lots of them. And as I asked you that question, it was really nice

to see the smile on your face. Yeah, I did. As you were thinking about

it all, you know what I mean? Everyone out there has got people who aren't

family or friends that have impacted them in some way, shape or form. Let them

know though. Let them know. Yeah, let them know. Like I'm going to send John

a copy of our book. Amazing. No doubts about it. And it brought a smile

on her face thinking that I get to do that for him now and you'll

go look where you've come from. Whippersnapper. That snowboarding, you know, you

were 21 years of age. I did the same with

one of the people I just spoke about then. I'd just signed one this morning

and sent it. The two PE teachers I mentioned, Graham and

Barrio, when my first book came out, I got like 10 advanced

copies and I sent one each to them. I

think the biggest thing with what we've just spoken about then is that if you

want to do something or you admire someone, reach out and ask for a coffee

or go and say I want to learn from you or whatever. That's

how I've been able to, particularly with Jared and

Brad, just because I've said, yeah, I want to learn from you. But then the

only way that continues going is if they give you advice, you actually action

something, you know, like talks cheap. Don't waste people's time. Yeah. You know, and

then I think that's why, you know, you get results is because

I generally want to learn from them because I admire and respect them. And

because you can only give back to them by following through

they're like, wasting my time. Do you know what I mean? Like,

and that's. You never want that. And I don't want people to think that of

me anyway. If I want. If I'm asking for advice, I'm going to follow it

through. If it doesn't work, then I'm like, well, that didn't work. And they're like,

okay, let's try something else. But, yeah, you can't go to someone

and say, I'd love to learn from you and do nothing.

Or like, oh, yeah. And you give advice and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm just

not ready. Like, don't waste people's time. If you're going to be brave enough. To

ask for it 100%, that's the hardest thing to do, I feel. Yeah, yeah. So

go with it. But definitely write a book to Jonathan. I will do. That's brilliant.

I would do. And if you're listening out there, think of one person that's impacted

you and let them know. Let them know. That's your actionable moment from

today. Let them know. Parents, parents and home

and all that kind of stuff and life. And obviously we're in the thick of

it. It's. I don't know how to

word this. I want to paint the picture and just get people thinking about

how parents show up at home compared to showing up at work.

All right. We spend eight hours a day at work, roughly the normal person.

Some of us do you? Not all the time. No. Me, not the time. That's

great. You do enough work for four people, my friend.

I've got a shaky DK, 100%.

It's only because you've got a work ethic for 22 minutes, so I can just

relax a little bit. But a lot of people,

the average. The average. The average Joe, eight hours at work.

They'll have workshops or meetings to do, and they'll plan for them. You know what

I mean? They want to make sure it flows or organize agenda items, blah, blah,

blah. Generally, when they get home, they've got about three hours

of work. Like your kid, you get home at five, your kids are in bed

at eight. You've really got three hours of work in inverted

commas at home. And that work is your family and your kids.

And it just got me thinking the other day about how so many parents

don't show up at home the way they do for work. You

know, I mean, if they put the same amount of effort and time and energy

into they do for their businesses or even just their job, their 9 to 5

job that they don't even own the business to, but they put their, you know,

soul into it and they prepare for it. I just think

there'd be so many kids in a much better space if they put like,

the most important meaning of your day is that dinner table

meeting with your kids and your family. That's the most important meeting of the day.

But how many people would think about it like that? And it. That very true.

And then I know I spoke when we did that Peninsula

Principals conference, I was pretty open and vulnerable about, you

know, been a dad. Yeah. And I said, I've sort of been creating lesson plans

and I still do that. I plan on what I'm gonna ask

questions and then what games we're gonna play each night. And

I'm very intentionally. I tell them we're gonna do that. So then once we finish

dinner and bath and everything like that, then we're going to get those.

Yeah, but you got. Otherwise, you just. It's hard work. It's a long

three hours, isn't it? And, yeah, some people get home and go, oh, days

done. No, day's not done. Day's three, got

three. The most important three hours of your work, of your job,

which is parenting. You know what I mean? It's set up to go. And,

yeah, like, this got me thinking this last night, last night after dinner, and

both the kids were like. Hunter especially was like, oh, can we watch tv? And

Mum, to her credit, said, no, which I love. She was like, no, not the

moment. And they both went, ugh. And they groaned. And straight away I jumped

in. And I also would have loved to have just sat on the couch and

chirped, but I was like, who wants to build Lego? Yeah. And straight away,

yeah, yeah, yeah. And we spent the next 45 minutes from now,

you know, building some Lego and those sorts of things. And that fork in the

road moment of. It would have been so easy for us, both, Mel and I,

just to switch off in that moment and go, yeah, bugger it, go watch tv.

Or you play the hard card and you step up and you work at home

in inverted commas and you actually, you know, do a shift and put two hours

in or whatever it might be, and it just pays dividends. You feel so

much better, though. You do, don't you? You're actually like, oh, that was a really

enjoyable evening. Instead of putting out fires, yelling and getting

angry, which doesn't help anyone, watching. 15 episodes of Whatever.

I hate that show for people out there, that same age kids and watching

Peppa Pig. How is that show? Oh, I

just don't even. Anyway, yeah, I don't like Peppa Pig, but anyway, that's good, mate.

Very, very true. Yeah. So just if you're listening, you're driving home. Whatever it is.

We have a lot of people that often text in saying, yeah, we listen on

the way home, whatever it is. Just let that little seed sink in and go,

righto. And when I get home, my work day is not done. When I get

home, the most important part of my work day is starting. 100, and that's how

I'm gonna. That's where you get the book out. 365 days

of play, you open up to the current date, you read the family a story,

and then straight away you've got a challenge to do. So you don't even need

to think. Yeah. You don't even need to create a lesson plan. There is no

if you're not playful. Don't worry. That's what we've done for you.

That's a great segue. But if you buy now, throwing

some stagnant. Hello, everyone. Hey. I

hope you have an awesome week. I hope you're as up and about as I

am after listening to this. It's been a great day so far. Yeah. Enjoy.

Enjoy the week ahead. Connect with everyone. Thanks for the support. Chat to you

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