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how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you share

it with. Alrighty, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back

to energetic radio podcast, episode

368. We are back and it's been a bloody long

time. It's been a long time. This might have been your longest hiatus, Eric. Would

have been. I reckon it was where I had a bit of a

break. Yeah. August 4th was our last one and

we're now. We've just. Just hit the start of October, so it's a good, good

two months off. Yeah, but it was needed. It was warranted. We had.

Mate, we're burning the candle both ends and. And things coming out of every office.

And it was, yeah, work was busy, life is busy. So we just had to

put some things on hold and practice what we preach. Right. You can't keep juggling

every single balloon in the air. Eventually they're going to drop. And unfortunately,

the. The potty was one of the things that we could afford to drop. Yeah.

I think it's something that if you don't enjoy doing and we talk about this

all the time, then you just don't do it. And I was at a stage,

I'm like, I just don't have the capacity to do it. And

that's. And that's. And that's honest. Right. Which I love that. That honest mental appraisal

of having a hard chat to yourself going, man, it is. There's so many

other things going on in our business and our personal lives, primarily our business. That

was exciting. It was awesome. It was taking us in new

directions. It was taking up a lot of brain power and creative juices

and, yeah, something's got to give. And we practice what we preach and tried

to find some balance in the. And the podcasts, in the scheme

of things had to just be put aside, I guess, for a

little bit. But. But what was really cool. What was really cool was

the messages that keep coming through. And I sent a message to you last

week. I think we need to get back in this podcast studio because we're getting

messages from people, you know, that have been listening to them, missed them,

you know, just the impact it's having on their life and those sorts of things.

And when you receive those messages, you kind of go, right, we've got to now

find the energy and find the time and Find I guess the desire to get

back in the podcast studio and. But I'm pretty excited, I'll be honest.

It's fun being back behind the mic. It's fun staring back at you.

Even though we work with each other every single day, but we never sit from

across from each other. We try and just have a conversation partner. We don't really

talk that much anymore, mate. We just come in, just come in at work. I

know it's amazing how two blokes sit next to each other at office

a meter apart from each other and sometimes you'll sit in silence for like. Two

or three hours. Yeah. And that's okay. Yeah. Just both head down, bum up getting

creative and working. But I think it's a good thing when two

blokes are comfortable with a bit of an uncomfortable silence going on. But

no, it's good to be back and see everyone that's been out there has been

hassling us a bit to. To release some, some new episodes. Thank you.

It is nice. It is nice. It's nice to be wanted. It's nice to know

that we're having some sort of an impact out there and yeah, it's nice to

sort of. For not forces but encourage us to get those brains back,

switched onto podcast mode and think about some. I know some words of

wisdom we can release out into the world. It still baffles me that people want

to listen to our words of wisdom. Absolutely baffles me.

But it's also nice and rewarding at the same time. But yeah, episode

368, a little seven or eight week hiatus. But we are back

and got a couple of guests lined up so hopefully we can pump out a

few and keep the ball rolling leading to Christmas before we have another break.

But anyway, mate, what's been happening? What's been going on? Oh well, I think

that's what. Yeah, that was probably the biggest, busiest term I've

personally ever had like doing is. I've never

like we were really busy but then I had a couple of trips away as

well and they just. Yeah, they destroyed me. They destroyed you, didn't they?

Yeah, they really did know they're the biggest like capacity

of speaking engagements I had while I was away. Yeah. So it

just. Yeah, it shattered me. And then you'd get back and you just, just don't

have time and you go again. Yeah, well you got back and hit the ground

running. Right. Because you got back and you've been away overseas a couple of times

and your wife's been holding the Photos you get back not only with business that's

piled up, but also in the work front and the guilts and those sorts of

things and. But, yeah, but, but

here's a question for you. Yeah. What'd you learn from it? That

it was way too much, that I agreed to too many things.

That it just wasn't good for me, for anyone. Like,

yeah, I was a shell of the person I was and I kept. Had to

put the mas and it was like, I wish I could have

enjoyed. I did enjoy the gigs, but particularly the one when I went over

to Thailand to NIST International School. And I know I've spoke about this, but they'd

been like four or five years in the making to be able to get the

opportunity that I had, you know, work my way up from just doing the

PE team. And then the second time I went back there, I did the PE

team. And then I did like a keynote to the year 12 and 13 students.

But this time I went back for three full days where I got to kick

off their academic year and work with, with every staff member,

every student in the senior school, all their student leaders. I did two

parent workshops and I got to work with the whole executive team as

well. And for people who don't know, Nash National School is one of probably the

top 20 schools in the world. Like, it's unbelievable. There's a

waiting list to get there and it's one of the most incredible schools.

But yeah, I was speaking from 8am every day to 5pm I

do five sessions a day, minimum hour and a half each session. The most,

the, the least number of people had in a session was 100. Some I had

over 300. So it was incredible. But like by

the end of each day I could hardly talk. Yeah. So you learned, you learned

that it broke you. Right. Which is fair enough. But on the flip side of

that, you also learned you could do it. I know, I knew I could do

it. But you've also learned you put together, I sat here and watched you and

helped you with it. You put together your program those three days, right? Yeah. And

then you put together a kick ass program with such, I guess,

diversity in it because the amount of people, different types of people. It was 15

different sessions. Yeah, exactly. And you planned 15 into

individual different sessions. You delivered them all. They were incredibly well

received. You've been invited back. And so yes, you've worked out that

it broke you, but you should also sit here and go, you know what? But

I also bloody worked out that I could do it and then I had the

mental fortitude and the grit to get through it and then I came back and

I didn't fall in a heat. When I came back, even though I was broken,

I came back and then just continue to work my backside off, you know what

I mean? So be proud of that, baby. I am very proud of it. Flip

the script. No, no, no, I am really proud of it. But I think what

it did to me personally and physically. Yeah. That it wasn't fair.

Yeah. Like because. And then I got back late that Friday night, Thursday

night I think got back in at like 1am and we had to get out

the morning. I had to go and keynote the National Education which is the dumbest.

Like so silly. Like. Yeah, planning wasn't. Planning

wasn't perfect but that as you said that term was.

Was mind blowingly busy. We were back to back to back every single day and

thank God it was only a nine week term here in, here in Victorian Melbourne.

But it flew by. But God, we jammed a heap in. What about

personal front, mate? What's been happening last couple of months? Just

trying like it's. But that's what I mean I think because work's been going

so well, it's been really hard on the home front and I'll be honest. And

that's where it probably hasn't been fair, you know, like I've been. We were

away a lot together but then I was away even more and it's just.

It sort of made me weigh up things that all I

ever wanted was what I was able to do but then when I was doing

it I didn't because the people is affecting the most are the ones that I

want to make the biggest impact on. So it. Yeah, sort of. I was sort

of really torn and that's sort of like when I'm talking about this, like I'm

bloody proud of it. Don't get me wrong, I really am. But I think my

perspectives changed and what's more important and it's not about those personal

accolades or how well our business is going, it's probably more,

yeah the people that I'm affecting at home. So personally it's made me

realize a lot of things and the hard thing is you, you know

what's important for you and what you want to do and probably what you need

to do but when you're still growing a business and doing things, it's.

You still have to do that. So yeah that's probably on a, on

a personal front. Home front, mate, they're the demons that I'm really battling

with at the moment and it's trying to get. Get everything right. And I talk

about this a lot, like if normally work's going well, something else isn't going well.

You know, there's no such thing as a balance. Yeah, yeah. And

so, yeah, that's probably me personally, mate. That's. Yeah, cool. They're the things I'm trying

to juggle with at the moment and trying to navigate how I can

be best at everything. Yeah, we had some awesome things, though. Let's

focus on the good stuff before that. What about you, mate? Oh,

mate, life last been epic, as. You know, another

grand final, another league. So my. Another

bnf mate for bringing that up. I appreciate that leading you

down that pathway now we are, mate, on the

personal front. Sick year. We had our footy team and the

Vultures up the Vultures. We won our fourth granny in a row, which was awesome.

So the Dynasty. Dynasty, Dynasty,

Dynasty. Don't know how to Dynasty. Dynasty anyway, is well and truly

alive. We've won four in a row. I don't care if it's old man's footy,

it's still an achievement. The boys, yeah, super proud of the boys.

And we just had an epic, epic into the season. Close prelim,

close Granny sick presentation night. Awesome celebrations afterwards.

Yeah, I feel like I'm only just coming through the haze of grand final

celebrations and those sort of things, but it was an incredible thing.

Kids, I think it's awesome and you're about to start

this adventure next year when your kids start going to primary school. But once your

kids start going to primary school and start playing organized sport, it's just bloody unreal.

Like, it's unreal. Like I was hanging for the season for, you know, I coached

my kids soccer team. Park was playing footy, basketball and

soccer. Hunter was playing soccer and it got busy, right? And like, yes, it's

done. I don't have to coach anymore. And three weeks on, I'm missing it. You

know what I mean? Like, I'm really missing it. But my little man PJ won

his basketball grand final in his first year. That's epic.

Oldest son H tried out for an academy and got in. So that's. That's made

his world incredibly bright and we're super proud of him. And now all sports

kick back off in about two weeks. So we're about to do it all over

again with mum and dad's taxis. And there's no seasons. There's no seasons

anymore, especially in Barclay. Basketball Gonna

sound like it. It's money, isn't it? Yeah. Do you think

they need a break, like? Yeah, but here's my question, right? So they would

have had about a five, four week break, maybe a four or five

week break between basketball seasons, for example. And at that age, at 6,

is that enough? Probably is. I don't know, like, would you rather them,

like continue on to train once, once a week with their mates and get something

out of and practice and develop a new skill and then go and actually test

themselves on a court and play and connect with their mates, you know, for

40 minutes a week? Like as parents are sitting there going, God, it's too much.

And it's, it's never any. But it's. It's an hour a week of training and

40 minutes a week at a game. But the benefits are incredible. Right,

So I get you. Because I was the same. I was like, man, when the

fees came back out for basketball, I said to my wife, I'm like, we just

pay. Are we paying basketball fees again? She's like, yeah, season starts like three. So

I was like, what? It's like indoor netball, indoor cricket, back in the day,

literally you play a granny, next thing, you start next season. Like, I get it,

I completely get it. But yeah, my thing is

like, when kids have so much structure and this is probably one of the

things, you know, when I go over to Thailand and Asia, they're

so structured that when do they get that free time, you know?

And I know your kids aren't like that, but. But, you know,

what's. Where's the balance, you know, when, when is there just that free time to

explore and go and play and you don't always need organized sport.

Yep. But anyway, that's. I get you. Yeah,

yeah. But insane that I was looking forward to being over now looking forward to

coming back, which is crazy. Kind of cool. So it all kicks off in a

couple of weeks. We've had our AFL footy finals

here in Melbourne. Well done, the Brisbane Lions. It was an epic effort. And my

boys, the pies. I'm gonna throw it there. I reckon if they beat Brism in

the prelim, they might have knocked off Geelong and the old granny. Geelong didn't turn

up very well, but they didn't. We will never know that. You won't know.

What if she can't live with us? Can't live with that one. Geez, we should

have won it. Move on. We were close.

We won a quarter in the prelim and that's it. What

else been happening, mate. We've been a couple things that work front. So, like, we

had a huge. Like, both of us presented in front of 1100 people

last term, which was. That was cool. Yeah, it was definitely my biggest. That was

mine too, mate. Biggest crowd I've ever spoke in front of. The Plenary Theatre.

Yeah. Melbourne Convention Center. Convention Center. So that was like the number one

staging speaker in Victoria. That was an epic reflection. So I was putting this pod

together. It's awesome to reflect. Right. Man, we bloody spoke in front of

1100 people. The biggest crowd I've ever keynoted to. And that

was bloody brilliant. We also ran an incredibly successful student Leadership

day for the ecumenics. I'm glad you said that. I'm not saying

it. Schools of Australia, which is a. Which is a. I guess a

28 private schools or something like. Yeah. Organization. Yeah. And we pumped out

an awesome, epic Student Leadership Day for that. That was just so well received. And

upon reflecting on that, that brought a smile to my face because we're going around

again next year with it. And it's just. Yeah. Epic schools to work with

elite young human beings. Kind of incredible. It kind

of reinvigorates your belief in human beings that are coming

through because you hear a lot of, you know, the news is so negative and

about how many dickheads there are and these young people breaking the house and stuff.

And then you spend a day with 280, you know, year 11 student leaders

from all these private schools, and they're just unbelievable. We would say

there was 280 in a room and we'd say, all right. And everyone just stop.

Yeah. And you're like. And we'd like, whoa. Yeah. And just the way they. We

pushed them out of their comfort zone and got them out of their friendship groups

and they had to go and network with completely new people that age. That's daunting.

But they did it so bloody well and they enjoyed it. It didn't daunt them

at all, though, mate. Like, there was not one. That was amazing.

Yeah. It was such a nice thing to be a part of. It was epic.

And then the last one is one of projects, and I come to projects down

the track. But our Play Free foundation is officially.

Officially all signed off and agreed upon. And,

mate, we are an official charity. A charity.

And that's super exciting. So we've got a lot of work to do in that

space coming up, which is a cool project, but that's something else we'll work on

in term three. See you, mate. As you can tell we've been away, but there's

been lots of cool things going on behind the scenes. And mate, couldn't be happier.

It's awesome. Bang. I think one of the things for me, you know

when you're just going through because you're speaking so many, like you're doing. It

just. It takes your energy. Yeah. So, yeah, on the weekend when you

said sent through those messages, we need to get the podcast going. Right.

I need to do something to just get me back. I need to get back

into it. So I painted the fence. My thing is always paint a

fence. Like if I paint a fence. Yeah. It just makes me feel good

about myself. Wow. It's. Because it takes bloody ages.

Yeah, it's cathartic as cathode is very rewarding as well.

You also involved your little man in it. Yeah, was out there playing

with me. Looks bloody good too. Monument. Yeah, monument. Nice

color. Geez. I've gone through a lot of monument. The house, nearly all monument. No,

but it's amazing what that did. So, like, it was about, you know, over a

couple of days, probably 10 hours just out there painting a fence and

yes, I'm back this week. I'm back. I've been working

harder. The juices are going again. Yeah, you've been. And

you've been super consistent. The gym. Yeah, I've noticed that actually, this. This ties

in. I've actually got written here. Projects, exclamation mark. Projects. Everyone

needs at least one project and

that's your face lit up. Then when you start talking about the fence and your

back and those sort of things. And, man, I'm a huge believer that I reckon

everybody needs to have some projects on the go. One or two

projects at all times. Whether it's your daydreaming about the next project and

you start planning it and that's fun. And then obviously you roll it out, you

do it and you complete it and you feel really proud of yourself, whether it's

a project on you, about yourself, like work on you as a project. You know,

I've. I just signed up to a calisthenics

thing, you know, 28 day calisthenic challenge. Never done it before. Wanting to test

myself, push myself out of my comfort zone. And that's my current project on myself.

Right. He's doing that every day for 28 days. I can't feel my groins. My

abs are killing me. All those little stabilizing muscles are like, holy

shit, they exist. But yeah, I just reckon. And

you're on our Work front. We'll have a chat about an awesome project we've

just started working on, which is super excited about, but you know, to play free

foundation. Awesome project we've been working on. Our curriculum. Awesome project we've been working

on. So I just reckon, I don't know if

you're sitting, listen to this and you're like, you know, when was the last time

I had a project to sink my teeth into or focus on

or plan towards or roll out or complete. Have a

thing that do. Yeah, I just reckon. Or do something that will give

you some satisfaction, you'll be able to see the reward in it. That's from

anyone can paint. People said you're not a good painter. That's because

anyone can be a good painter. Go ahead and paint a fence. Doesn't matter. Paint

goes everywhere. It's just in Sunny painting, he got more on him and the ground

than on the fence. But he still had a good time. But then you

also, you complete something and each time you walk past it, you see and it

reminds you, I did that. It's amazing what that one thing that you commit

to then snowballs and gets things going. That's what I reckon. Paint a

bloody fence. Paint a bloody fence. Dale's new mantra, paint a bloody

fence. But it makes you proud, right? Yeah, it does. I'll go past it. I'm

like, I did that 100%. 100%. 100%. It makes you

proud. When I finished one of my calisthenics workout this morning, I did that and

I've worked towards my goal, which my project and I felt bloody good.

I can't really. So I'm going to create, build something for someone who I care

dearly about. I can't say what is because they listen to this podcast, but I

started planning it two nights ago, got it, got out the full on measurements

and how much wood I'll need and all the materials I need and I've just

planned all and it felt bloody good because I've been wanting to build it for

a while and I sat down, it's got the pre planning phase done and it

felt blood. I was proud of myself getting the ball rolling and now, now the

pre planning phase is done. Now I'm excited and now I can't wait to work

on it. Now I'm going to get the materials and I'll start building it. And

just that you talk about building the fence. You're proud of yourself.

Yeah, I am. And that's the biggest one of the simplest things we can do

for Our happiness and our mental wellbeing is just be

bloody proud of yourself. Yep. Do something. I don't care what it is, just do

something where you look back and go, shit, I'm proud of that. Yep. I reckon

there's a better feeling. No, there's not. But then it'll snowball into other things. And

I know you've got your notes there, but it sort of flows in nicely. When

we were at the National Education Summit, cause we both did sessions and

then with our brilliant publishers, Amber Press, we had a. They had a

tent like a stall set up and we. The book nook. The book nook. There

you go. And we obviously sign books and so forth and we've been

talking about this for a while that obviously you've been doing a lot of executive

leadership and really doing it around our play based leadership model that

we've sort of created because there's nothing out there. Anyway, you told Alicia and you

said, we got this idea beauty, when can you ride? And we're like, oh,

well, we, we can't. Because anyway, without any mental capacity to. Do a

podcast, you got back from Marlowe and like the last couple

of days, let's nut it out, let's see what it could look like in the

flow of it and things like that. And obviously we're not going to come around

to being able to ride it till maybe January or December. Like that's when we've

got a bit of free time. But we, because of. We're both in a good

space, we put the framework together, we've put it out there and it's.

I'm excited. I'm so excited. Yeah, yeah. And I

didn't like to myself last night and we got the framework going and then I

sat down in front of the laptop and 8 o' clock at night and I

was literally really happy to open that laptop and start doing some planning around the

book. And it's excited me and I've got something to work towards. We've got a

project to work on again. It's funny when you do a massive project

like the book, the 365 Days of Play that we wrote, and it takes up

a good eight months of your life and you constantly work on it. When it's

finished, you're proud of it and it's awesome, but it leaves that little bit of

a hole. No, you're like, thank God that's done. I'm sick of

reading that. Because by the end it just blurs into one true.

But then once it was all Done was out there and released the world. You're

kind of like, well now it's gonna let it roll. Yeah, you do. Yeah. And

it's fun to watch it roll initially, but then you can't like, man, there's a

little hole there thing. So pro next project come along.

And now we're hooked again, aren't we? We are hooked again. So yeah, that'll be

out 20, 26. Don't know when it gets a publishing

deal, but hopefully will. But don't worry about that. It's bloody gold. It's gonna be

bloody awesome. So add three questions for three questions that notice. Good, mate.

Relating to projects was one. Just paint a fence. No,

you can add it into your answers if you want, but here we go. So

relating to projects, what's the toughest project you've ever had? Oh,

it can be anything. Work, personal, home.

Toughest project you've ever had. Toughest project I've ever

had. Probably trying to convince people that building a company about

games is a smart idea. Playing games.

And to leave a good job and that it's people will want to do it.

Yeah, I'll be honest, it is. That was a project, right? You had an idea,

you day dreamt about it. Yeah, I didn't know what it was. And probably the

hardest thing was to tell people what I actually did. And we still struggle with

that. I hate the wrong word. We'll be out and

we'll meet new people. The other night and we're

doing some business owners and a lady said, oh, so what are you guys doing?

Dale just looks at me so he. Says, paul, what do we do?

And I went. And every time I was still like, shit. What exactly

do we do? I know we're put smiles on people's faces. We trip people. I

don't know. So yes. So I'd say for me, that would be it, mate. That

was your one. Awesome. Yours, Yours. Mine is.

Mine's probably the one I had the most trouble was building

my walk in wardrobe. I know it sounds a bit crazy. It's not a work

front one, it's just a personal one. I was thinking about it, but I knocked

up at a walk in wardrobe at home, completely from scratch. I'm

not a cabinet maker by any stretch of the imagination, but man, trial and

error and figured it out and yeah, planned

it and put it in. But that was a hard. You built a house without

a wardrobe. The. Our house that we built had a

walking like just. But it just had one long continuous rail. Oh,

just open. No Drawers in there. No, nothing. It was. It was crap.

It was crap. And we lived with it for what, five, six,

seven years. And then eventually I was sitting there, I was like, you know what?

I can either pay someone. Yeah. Because they're expecting 15, 20k to

put in a fully, or I can give it a crack

myself, probably spend about 5k on it and a heap of time.

But every time I look at it, you did it. I'm bloody proud of it.

And it can't have a treat. And it's got my own touches on it and

my own imperfections, but that'll be the toughest one. Rono, what's the

funnest project you've ever had?

The funnest project?

I'd say I'm looking at a photo up on the wall there of

the Latrobe Uni, Red Sox, all my mates. So I got back

from London and a heap of my schoolmates, we started a

footy club and a footy team. Oh, that's. And yeah, I ended up being one

of the coaches with my pico. And yeah, first year we won the flag and

it was. It was pretty cool to start something.

Yeah. And just get all these people that didn't know each other and become really

good mates. So that would probably be the funnest one. Dude, mine's the same.

Epic. Back in. What year would it have been?

We started a whole soccer club called the Mitchell Rangers

Soccer Club up in Brawford. So I used to teach a little country town called

Brawford and there was no local soccer clubs anywhere.

Like kids and adults had to travel, you know, down at Whittlesey and one on

like an hour to get to play soccer. And so we literally started

the Mitchell Ranger Soccer Club. You looked up. Now it is a fully fledged,

like junior and adults senior soccer club,

women's men's, like, you know, Ford is one of their sponsors, all new

pitches. And we started the inaugural

men's team for that. And then the junior team flowed, like to the point we

actually had to create the themes of the club song. Did you? Yep. Everything, like,

it's insane. Remember it? No. Oh, come on.

We are the Mitchelton Rangers. We're in

the mountain turns and we play hard. We got

cambo up the for line. So good.

But yes, and I was saying that was one of the funnest projects. Just a

group mates y. And. And it's sick now to look back

at it. That's really fully going. Like ours is not going

anymore, I don't think. But Yours is. That's. That's a really cool project.

Most rewarding project.

I would say painting in. I just.

Yeah, it's something a lot of people don't like doing and it's like. It's very

tiring and it. But I think once you're done, it's.

Paint just changes everything. It's the most rewarding thing you can do. Love it.

Yeah, I love it. Ours is. I'm going to work front. A bit cliche.

The book. Yeah, it's one of the. One of the most rewarding projects we've worked

on because the impact it's having. But I know it's. Mate, you

etched in. You're there forever, right? You're going to be on the. So many libraries

that have bought it. It's just really cool sitting there going, man, that book's gonna

be in the library shop for how long after we're gone? But just the fact

it's helping people all over the world and the reviews are getting is awesome. So

mine might be a book. But yeah, that's cool. Plug as well, mate.

Great little plug. But yeah, listening out there. I do like

painting. I wouldn't mind being commissioned. Would you say Duracell? Yeah,

they're a battery company. That's

Torbens. Who's the other one? Surely Duracell. No, Duracell's batteries.

This is a great conversation now. Oh, what's the paint coming?

It starts with D. I bet there's a paint. Oh my God.

Is there? Yeah. Someone look it up quickly, would you? No, no one's

here with us. I'm gonna get off this and find it. I hope it's all

right. Anyway, now Duracell's different than the batteries. Yeah, I know that.

Torbman's nice. There's a D1. There's a D1 now keep going.

Move on. Sorry. That's okay. Brilliant.

Oh, absolutely. Hey, we had a comment. We had a conversation the day. I'm not

sure if. Remember women run the world. Yeah, I do remember that.

And it popped up in my notes again. Way better place. Way better.

Men are idiots, dude. I can't. I just. It stuck with

me a few times. I'll be going for Run. I don't know why it jumps

in my head and that. I've thought about the game.

I have. I'm like, every time I see Bloody trumpet. Do something. Or just men.

I think, just, why didn't women get put in charge of the world from day

dot? This place would be such an incredible. Way better mate. Wouldn't it?

It'd be a calm, kind, empathetic place. Yeah. There would be

no egotistical lining their own pockets. They wouldn't be doing that.

Crazy. You'd be able to trust them. Yeah, I think it'd be. Yeah. I don't

know, man. It's just random comments right now, but that conversation stuck in. So throw

it in there. I'm going to finish this one. Just something for us all

to think about. Good. Love that. The math on life is

400 trillion to one. That's.

That's of you being how you are. Yep, yep. The math on life

is 400 trillion to one. You've already bloody

won. The fact that you are here, the fact that you are alive and you've

made. It's 400 trillion to one. You've already bloody won. So just enjoy it.

Ah, stop it. Just enjoy it, people. Stop beating yourself up.

Stop bloody, I don't know, procrastinating. Stop comparing yourself to everyone else.

Stop worrying about it all. Just bloody sit there and think.

The math on life is 400 trillion to one. And yet here we are,

walking the planet. So just enjoy it. Mate, that's too deep.

Paint offence, paint offense with a battery.

I love it. Everyone out there, thanks for listening,

thanks for the messages, thanks for encouragement to get back in the studio.

Hope you enjoyed our random conversations about projects today. Few guests coming

up, but yeah, look after yourselves. Sit back,

enjoy the ride. 400 trillion to one, baby.