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Energetic Radio, you beauty. Episode number

369, how good is life? Paul Campbell, how are you?

Great, man. I'm well, thank you, mate. I am well. It is. My life's good

at the moment. It's to meet you. Nice, nice. Just have a little bit of

downtime. Delightful. And we are, we are ticking off

the to do list. We've got a to list on the wall and it is

very rewarding as I see you cross things off on that green

marker. I'm looking now, there's probably about

18 little dashes there to do list items. And

you've. We've ticked off about five or six last couple of days. We keep adding

to it. We keep adding to it. But it is bloody rewarding when you, when

you get the green Posca out, mate, and rub it off. Well, I think that's

when you actually have time like to think,

like, I feel. I'm feeling alive at the moment, like, so

creative. Yeah. I walk in and there's energy.

I spoke about Duracell. The battery. Yes.

Deluxe. Thank you. I love it. They're on the Dulux

painting the fence allowed me to get that. Battery

backs are at the top of my notes. About

today. I didn't even know, but I was. Like, you can say so

good last week. So how are you? Before I go, you. Well,

I'm really. As I said, mate, I think it's great when we can do.

We like, we get. We've got a great job and we get to do what

we do, but it's also really tiring and it takes it out

of me a lot more now than it used to. Yeah. I am in my

voice. We're getting older. Yeah. My voice is. No, like, it's not as good as

it used to be. Yours is still very strong. Yeah. But I really,

I'm slowing down a bit. Like, yours has got a bit more of a husky

tone, though, which some people might dip. Geez. I'm not. I'm not on

Tinder anymore. Especially all the women that are in our workshops and those comment

on those calves of yours. They might dig the. They might just dig the

huskiness. I don't. I don't think they do. Anyway, it gets

worse as it Goes on. But, yeah, anyway, so what I find is when we're

so busy doing actual work that, yeah, my creative

spark isn't there. But, yeah, I love nothing more than just being able

to come in here and think and get creative and ponder ideas,

and it makes me happy. And as I said, I bounce out.

I'll put the kids down when I come, do more work. Like, I'm loving it,

so. And I felt. I felt the energy shift this last week for sure.

Painting the fence. I told you, fence, literally, you have to do something. Get some

Duracel paint, monument paint. Just get it on the bloody brush.

It was bloody funny. We are obviously last week's podcast a fair chat about

projects. And I received, like half a

dozen messages. Yeah, I got half a dozen messages from mates about,

you know, epic episode. Love the projects. They'll let me know about their projects. And

every single one of them was like, you idiots. Dulux

starts with D, not Duracell. So I'm glad everyone had a bit of a laugh

with that because we got off the pod last week and we Googled it and

we're like, oh. Literally couldn't think of it. Mind

block. Yeah. I couldn't get past Duracell. So that Dulux paint,

they have not hit us up yet for a sponsorship. Though, and I don't think

they will. You got good paint. I don't even use that anymore. I just get

the cheap one. So. I reckon paint's paint. Yeah, paint's paint.

Yeah. It's

like a Bonds T shirt and a Quicksilver T shirt. I reckon the Bonds T

shirt lasts twice as long as a Quicksilver T shirt. They're both made in China.

Both made the same factory. Yeah. It's just a bit of different brand names. Yeah,

exactly. Right. I think they're all made in the same joint, to be honest with

you. But back in that project shop from last week, it was awesome, but

did have lots of people message about, is it okay to

have myself as a project? I'm like, yeah, we'll listen to the podcast. You're the

number one. Yeah, that's exactly what we wanted. You know what I mean? And it

was really cool. Those mates that did message in, most of them were like, hey,

man, I'm working on this. I'm working on this. And most of it was about

themselves, which is bloody awesome to see. I had a little bit of

a thought about that this morning. One project I'm working on is

Swimming. Yes. So as well as my calisthenics, my wife Had a laugh at

calisthenics last week. She's like, you idiot. It made it sound like you're doing

dancing and acro. Acrobatics. I do like dancing. Yeah, I

do. But for everyone out there, I'm not doing dancing calisthenics. I'm doing like core

calisthenics and body workouts. But. But the other

one I've worked on, I've started swimming. So two weeks ago I jumped in the

pool and give my knee a rest and haven't swam for years upon years.

And it's awesome. Today, my project I've worked on, I can't breathe

every three strokes. I can only breathe from my right hand side. Yeah. And when

I get knackered, obviously, then I just do two arm pulls. Yeah. Rather than the

fall. Do you ever just get a head out of the water? That's where I

am. Yeah. Sometimes I panic still. I just head out. Yeah. It's crazy.

I know you're not going to drown. I got a lane rope next to me.

Hold on to. But yeah, sometimes the breath gets. True. You don't get a good

enough breath. You know, a little lap of water gets in your mouth and you're

breathing. But I really. I've been watching other people swim and most of the good

ones that go non stop every three arm pulls.

So I tried that the other day. Sucked at it. Could not breathe to my

left at all. Was swallowing water. Today I was like, right, project

time. I'm gonna. I'm gonna practice. It got heaps better. Yeah.

Good. First 400 meters, heaps better. And then when I tired, I struggled. Went

back to the triumphal. But anyway, it's a work in progress. Well done. But it

was awesome to hear everyone's comments about projects and that most people got

on the go. So thanks for listening. But. And then I walk in here and

the first thing you said, you're like, campbell, I've got a new idea for the

golf studio. And you've been putting heaps

of time and effort and really excited energy. Yes. Into this. You want to build

a golf sheer. Yeah, I want to. I do. I want to have like a

simulator where. Because it brings me a lot of joy and I know it brings

you a lot of joy as well. And each night when you put the

kids down like, you can't really do anything. And I so sick

of watching. I don't want to watch TV and I don't want to scroll on

my phone. Fair enough. I want to do something. So, yeah. I want to

build A golf studio. It'd be the ultimate but best team trying to figure out

the best way to do it because honestly you don't want to take up the

whole point of living in Australia. You got like a backyard and the kids can

play and I don't want to jeopardize that by. I've already got a shed in

a studio in here which is. We're very lucky. Yeah. I don't want to build

another monstrosity that probably takes up the grassland.

Right. Yeah. So anyway, so I'm trying to figure it all out and I think

of. Yeah, I think I've figured it out. So. And it's exciting as well because

when you've got a project on the go as we spoke about obviously we've

got always things at work and I'm really excited to talk about a couple of

those now. But yeah, I also think something that you physically can do makes you.

Yeah. Really excited. Yeah. And so also it'll be nice also

an office for Bri, my wife because her when she works at home her

office is inside. And yeah, when my boys, they're quite

energetic when they're home it's. It's a little bit hard for our meetings and

things like that. So yeah, it could be a really nice. I think that's the

great selling point. I love how Dar wants to build a golf shoot.

He's like the selling point to my wife. It'll be a really. No, I'm going

to put it up. You're talking about this the wrong way. So I'm going to

build Brian office. It's quite long. That doubles the

golf shoe. Three meters high, four meters wide, five meters long.

That would be a perfect office because I've heard the like acoustics if you want

to make an office. Yeah. Three meters high, four wide, five long.

Like that's what you need come from your planning phase. Correct.

Funny that too that that will allow the golf simulator. That will allow

swing space. I never like because I didn't really think about this but we recently

through the business because you can't just get out and I'm

sure people can but to get out and play around in golf is quite expensive

and it'd take up quite a long period of your day. Yeah. So we just

bought this like thousand dollar golf simulator. We bought a trackman

and a net and a hitting mat and we set up in 10 five minutes

out the backyard and we played nine holes in about 40 minutes. Yeah, we played

nine holes over lunch and I, I've absolutely loved it, like

I've really enjoyed it. My golf clubs haven't left the back of my car for

a little while now because we've got the golf, the golfing

set up at work anyway, so. That'S, that's where I'm at. So I'm in the

planning phase of how that'll actually look and how it'll come to life and.

Yeah, but I think, yeah, a lot of multi purpose things and it's just really

nice. I love it. I think I'm doing for Brie. I love it and I

love it. Man. The project chat is blowing my, the messages and this and that

and it's, it's awesome. It's got me thinking. It's amazing how so much joy has

come from projects. Another one. So obviously

we spoke about play based leadership. So we've got the book, we signed the deal

with Amber Press, which we're stoked about, and that'll be coming

out mid-2026. All right. But

also as part of that, there's been something we've been working on a long time

around sort of play profiles. So sort of like the

Myers Briggs sort of thing like that. But allowing people to understand what

their leadership play profile is. We've been working really hard at that

and I'm pretty sure by the time this podcast goes live, you'll be able to

go on. We've created a website where you go on, you answer 10 questions and

it lets you know your play profile type. So if you're a connector, which

I am. If you're a creator, a challenger or a carer,

and you're a bit more of a. I was more of a. Carer when I

did the, when I did the test. Yeah. Which is good and. Which is right.

And it basically. And it breaks. Then what we've done is put a lot of

work into breaking it down. What each personality is, your traits,

how you show up, what you need. More importantly, what areas

you can work on and ways that you can get better at that. So, yeah,

it's obviously very early in the phase, but this was something that was spoken

about a lot and we didn't really know how it was going to look or

bring to life. But then obviously with the leadership element and the

framework that we're creating around it. Yeah. So that's been really exciting.

And on that we're bringing that to this podcast because everybody can

use it. It's not just a leader. Everyone's a leader in some

way. You're either a leader at home, you're a Leader amongst your friendship group. You're

a leader at work, you leads a few people you know below you at work

or alongside you at work, whatever it might be. But everyone's a leader in some

way, shape or form. And knowledge is power. So I think it's an awesome little

activity. I love doing it. You love doing it. It was accurate. You know, I

was like, shit, that is really accurate. But that's me. But this is something I

can work on. That's what it spits out as well. So yeah, so for knowledge

is power. So jump on when we release it to the world and have a

play with it. Takes you four minutes. Well go to the show notes, episode

369 and there should be a link down the bottom. Obviously

we've been testing it in like Google forms which is good

but it's not very professional I wouldn't have thought. So we've gone out and bought

some really good software that we're trying to integrate and things like that and hopefully

by the time this goes live you'll be able to do it. It'll take three

minutes max. Give it a try and the knowledge you'll gain from it

be awesome but get really excited. And that sort of led us to

building a new website and a new brand around play based leadership.

Something that we've been trying to figure out how it sort of works and it

really does, really does complement what we're already doing. But yeah,

probably one of those more things for, you know, sort of senior management,

corporate sports clubs, their leadership team and obviously executive teams in

schools because. That'S something I've loved doing. Obviously this, this year, this last six months

we've branched out and I've been working with a few, you know, we've been

working with a few leadership teams and executive leadership teams and helping their sense of

team and development and it's just, it's an awesome space to work in. I love

it. You know we do a lot of student stuff and staff stuff, but working

with that executive or those middle leaders and leadership teams, it's awesome to

watch them grow and develop as a leadership team through our sessions.

Yeah. And yeah, I'm super excited about it. It is awesome.

So yeah, if you listen to this, you want us to come out and do

some work in leadership team. Hit us up. Good plug. There's a good plug. I

love it. Oh, that's. Here's the time to book us in 2026. It's starting to,

it's going to come. Around quick as well. It is and that's when most people

are locking things in. So, yeah, if you're keen for us to do something 20,

26, get in quick because we are filling up, which is a great thing. I

love it, I love it. Hey, mate, I've got a little comment, a little quote

here. Pressure is a privilege. Oh,

yes, that's right. We're going to talk about this and. I can't

get it out of my head for whatever reason, but. So this popped up the

other day and it's pressure is a privilege and it's about how, how often

human beings struggle with the notion of pressure, right? And

funny story, literally, on the way to the skate park, this one with my kids,

I said to him, I said, I said, hey, Hunter and Parker, do you guys

like pressure? And they were both like, nah, instantly, no. And even at that age,

at 5 and 7, right, they were like, nah. And I was like, hey, I

want you to try and reframe your thoughts. I said, give me a second, I'm

gonna try and teach you something here. And I said exactly this. I said, when

you have pressure, you're in the arena, right? You're not the sidelines watching

life go by, you're actually in the arena. It means you've got being

given some sort of responsibility, you know, it means something to you. Yeah, it means

something to you. You've got an opportunity to have an impact on something, whether that's

yourself or someone else or an organization. So every time

we as humans feel pressure, it's actually a bloody good thing

because it means you're doing something or you've been given the responsibility,

the trust to do something, or here's the keys to throw.

Or you're trying something. Yeah. Or you're trying something, which is really important. Yeah.

So it's such a simple notion, that notion of pressure.

And I reckon every single human, if you ask them, hey, do you like the

feeling of pressure? Everyone would go, nah, nah, I hate feeling pressure.

Yeah, I love it, don't I? Like just. I thrive off

it. And I've learned a bit of that from you actually, that to thrive on

it. Yeah, you gotta, like, because it's a normal thing, you're going to feel pressure

no matter what. So why lean away from it? Lean into it, lean into it,

embrace it, enjoy it. And it's awesome. When you start thinking about it this way,

you do, your mindset shifts from that freak out. I don't like it, I don't

want anymore, get rid of it to now. This is a bloody good Thing that

I've got this pressure. I'm alive, I'm in the arena. Imagine if I didn't. It'd

be boring. Like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be worried about it. Because

you're going to learn, you're going to grow from it. And yeah, you might not

get it right, but you'll learn skills from it that you can transfer across whatever

it is or some resilience or whatever it might be. But yeah, it's even like

when I run it past my kids at that age and they both instantly went,

no, no. Well, and this is a good one, that I've been using my kids

that when they say no to something, instead of no, change it to yet.

So you don't like pressure yet, do you mean I can't do that?

You can't do it yet. So change that narrative. So the way they're talking to

themselves isn't a negative. Because when you say, I can't do it, or

no, it's just a complete shutdown and you are registering that. And then

we're talking to ourselves in a really negative way. Whereas you say yet.

You may always be yet, but it's not a no. Those simple

reframing things. It's like when we say, I'm proud of you or

you should be proud of yourself. You know, you switch it back around. It's such

a simple little reframing thing. Yet I love that. I'm going

to use that with my kids with their food. Three

times I try to give my kids eat food. No, I don't like it. I

don't like it. You haven't even bloody tried to start this. You know what I

mean? Maybe it won't work. That it will work with that. Every time I do

something, I still try it. It doesn't work, but it makes me get less angry

because they're not eating your brother. I don't like it. You don't like it yet.

Yeah, you will one day. When you realize planting that seed for them to go,

yes, yeah, maybe I will like it down the track. The narrative that they're telling

themselves is not a dead no, it's not a negative. Because each

time they say, register that I was like, I can't do it. That's a negative.

No, I can't. I don't like it. No. Bang. It's black and white. There's

no positive in that. Whereas yet they're leaving the door open and things

can happen. So I think for anybody listening out there, particularly

parents of young kids, or if you're a teacher or. Or you're a leader of

other people. When it's a negative turning into a yet because it

keeps a conversation and the door open and it allows growth to occur.

When you say, I can't do it or no, it shuts that door. Yeah. It's

such a powerful little seed to plant. Don't even know.

That should be it. Like, we've just

got Hunter. Hunter last. All of a sudden starts. He's now having avocado and

cruscuits. Hated avocado. Nat. Don't like it. Don't like it for two years. Don't like

it. And then all of a sudden just kept going. Hey, do you want to

try and have a car? Bloody loves it. Last night after dinner, can I have

some crusts and avocado? Yes.

Sunny, like, sourdough bread with goat's cheese. Avocado and then

Mercy Valley on top. That's his breakfast every morning. I'm glad he likes his

dad's breakfast every morning. I'm

glad he likes it. But Jesus Christ, not change.

You literally have avocado, sourdough. You have good sourdough bread,

avocado, goat cheese, and Mercy Valley cheese. You may as well eat good

food. I treat the body for trilling, baby.

That is awesome. I am glad that he's taken after his dad because when we're

away with each other that you're go to breakfast. And I love it. Yes. But

I don't have it at home. But it's a. It is nice little treatment. Avocado

is coming into season at the moment. They are. I'd love it. I'd love a

tree in the backyard. No, I wouldn't stuff that. I don't mind buying them because

then you always ripe. What I find on trees is. And we get

delivery from, you know, the delivery again once a week from local farmers.

Avocado is now beautiful for a while. Oh, that.

I've never tasted anything like it. But for a while they get some.

And I'm like, does that say gray nickels on it or kookaburra? Is this ever

gonna rival. Take it out the back and bolt to the boys. They'll just like,

throw them in. Throw them in a little bowl with bananas. Ripens them up super

quick. Yeah, but they were tiny. Anyway. I was like, get them out. I don't

even want that. I want a big one. I'd rather pay for a good one.

But tell me you wouldn't want an avocado treat on. No, no, I'd Love one.

It's pretty easy. You can't plant it, but it takes about 10 years to fruit,

I think. I don't think I've got the patience to make 10 years for one

to fruit. But you would. I wouldn't. Yeah, this is very true. Buy a mature

one then. Oh, buy me a mature one.

20,000. I don't know how much of a trout. That'd be expensive. I don't know.

I'm gonna look into that. You wanna know how much avocado trees are? A mature

avocado tree would be super expensive. $20,000 for a tree. But that was

exactly. That was mayo, but it's kind of. Cheese and the rest. Yeah. All right.

Hey, I've got a. I got a really random question for that. You've got that

every week, like a random one. All right. Random question. Without notice.

If it could, would your body and or mind pack up

and leave you if it had the ability to do so? Oh,

probably not. The moment. Okay, great answer. Great start. Yeah. At the moment,

no, my body would be loving me. Awesome. Yeah. Because I'm on. Because I'm really

looking after myself. Like I'm going to the gym every day. I'm getting good

sleep, I'm exercising, I'm eating really good food. Moving my

body. Yeah. So it's hanging around. Well, definitely hanging around. Be

like, you're crushing it, mate. Isn't that a really simple, quick way to do an

audit where you're at? Like, just ask yourself. Yours would be the same. Yeah. At

the moment, 100%. Mine would be the same. Except for your knee that cooked. Yeah.

Now it's back. Now it's going to do a little bit of running, which is

awesome. But I thought that was such a simple. That statement. Like, if it

could. Would your body or mind pack up and leave and go

to another host? If it could, last term would have been on the side of

the road here. Chiking. You're cook, mate. Give me another host. Your voice is

gone. You've got no energy. You're tired. That's it. Your mind's got the negative

spiral all the time. You're in a negative place. Yeah, yeah.

That's such. Honestly, everyone, you should just ask yourself that question. Yep. Right

now would my mind and or body, if it

could pack up and find another host and then you're going to go run and

go shit for a lot of people out there be like, it would. It would

come in summer. Yeah. It wouldn't. It be like, why say that if you're

talking negatively yourself or not moving your body or not feeling it. Well, yeah,

whatever it might be. Or doing things that make you happy. Doing things that make

you happy. Golf simulator, paint a fence, painting fences, monument

stuff. But, yeah, I loved it and I thought, you know, I'm gonna ask Dale

that question, see if he's well. And your response was awesome right now. No, it

wouldn't. It won't always be like that. And I think that's where a lot of

people. You don't beat yourself up when you are in a bit of a rut

where you go through tough times or things aren't right. Because not many

people, particularly as an adult, can sustain the perfect

life. You know, with kids, work, balance, stress, pressure, all

different things. Like, you are going to have highs and lows and ups and downs.

But I think, yeah, it's a great audit. Like you said, when you do have

the opportunity and things are maybe right for the taking,

put the work in. Yeah, yeah. Because it's amazing. Like, turned

around in three or four weeks. The person I am now is so much different

than what I was, because I was. I was burning out. Like, I was done.

But. But, yeah, that's even. I'll probably be at that stage again and it'll

leave, but then I know I can come back. And that. That's the thing. No

one's going to do the work for you. We talk about this all the time.

And then it's important to stop and go, you're welcome, body. You're welcome, mate. I'm

looking after you. I'm doing the right thing at the moment. You can. You can

hang around, no worries. Pat in the back. That's awesome. Thank

me later. All right, Another random question that notice. Go for it. What?

And this is random. What's a social trend

do you think we're going to see more of in 2026? Or what's a

social trend you want to see more of in 2026? Pissing phones off. Oh, that's

what I've got written down. Yes. Hey. I want them gone.

So I want to go to social situations or events

and I don't want people to have a phone or I want them to put

them on silent or I want them to put them out of there, like on

Do Not Disturb, so they don't even get notified. Do you know

where this came from? I took my mum to see Michael Jackson last week, the

Musical. And you're not allowed phones in musicals. Epic. Epic.

And I was sitting there for a good five minutes, just Having a little. My

mind went elsewhere. Yeah. And I was like, there's no. There's not one phone out

there. Boredom. Yeah. How awesome. Everyone was bored best. That's when you're allowed to

get creative. No, no, everyone was. Everyone was watching the show. Oh. You know, I

mean. No. So you're not allowed shows. You're not able to get your phone out

during a musical throughout the Her Majesty's Theater. Yeah. Are you not allowed to have

phones out? You know, I take photos or videos or anything like that, where you

go to a rock concert festival and you're looking at, you know,

you 20 rows in the front and you just. You're looking at 20 rows of

phones. Everyone recording shit that they're never going to watch again. They don't. Because the

footage is crap. But then at the moment. But musicals, you're

not allowed to have your phone out. And that's what got me thinking. I was

like, man, they're onto something here. Like, not one person felt they need to get

it out. You sat there and watched for two and a half hours. You were

there in the moment. You were present. It was awesome. You took it away. My

memories of it are awesome. And I'd love. You're right. A social trend that

I'd love to see. And I think there's some places starting to do it. Like,

for example, nightclubs and bars and music festivals where you got to check your phone

in good before you go in. Epic. So they're now making it

intentional and forcing people. I think once my kids are old enough

to do it, that that'll be a rule. We all just. That's it done.

Yeah, you're not allowed it back. You're not back. Yeah, you gotta lock it. You

gotta. You gotta check it in, put it. Into a bowl or whatever it is,

and that's where it stays. But I reckon it's an epic idea for like, restaurants

or, as I said, shows or festivals or whatever it might

be, nightclubs. I reckon it's an awesome idea. If

you're out there, you're doing. Where you make a place where you've got to check

your phone in and you're putting a lock, whatever it is, for the duration that

you're in there. I reckon it'll be very popular. Yeah. Of course, I can be

really well received. Flip what's happening? 100%. It's like whenever

you're on a plane, you can't use your phone. It's like whenever you go somewhere

that doesn't have service, you're like, oh, it's refreshing. Yeah, well bloody

make it so it's not refreshing. I was like, was it on Sunday? I don't

know. You were trying to ring me. Yeah. I got back to you two or

three hours later. I'm like, sorry, man, I didn't take my phone. I literally don't

take my phone anymore because I know when I do, I just, I get

it out. I'm like, why do I do that? Like, so I just literally

don't take it anywhere now. Yeah. That's awesome. I love, I love that to your

answer come with. Because that's what I'd written down on that question without notice is

I want to see. I'm actually really proud of myself. These are. Normally sometimes

I sit back and I go, oh, I could have answered that better. I don't

know where you're gonna answer. No, you don't know. That's the whole point of a

question without notice. But yeah, I've literally written undermine moving away from phones. And your

first response was, but I. Want to see less phones. I just see the world

now that is just so disconnected from

reality. And you just, I don't know, you see

the issues we see in schools and that's not all schools, not all

kids. I get that. But the pressure to be seen somebody in

person but then also have that personality online the way

it comes across. Because I don't know, like, I know kids

that worried about their streak on Instagram or their streak on Snapchat.

Like who gives a. That doesn't matter. No one

cares if you've got to keep your streak up. Yeah. But that's

unfortunately the reality we're at. What about when you show up somewhere, you're completely

present. That's the bloody streak I want. It is. And if I'm ever catching up

with anyone, I, I want that same thing. And so I expect myself to give

that. Yeah. I read something the other day that I was having a chat to

my, my sister in law actually about your average screen time per

day. And, and some people's are 10 hours. Yep. And she was

shocked at that. And I was like, mate, that'd be, that'd be. I think the

average for a lot of teenagers would be around that six to eight. You know

what I'd say this is. And I've noticed this, going to swimming lessons,

it's boring as anything. Like no doubt it's half an hour

while I've got. They do one after the other. So an hour. Every single other

parent just sits on their phone what are the kids saying? I feel like saying,

get off your phone. That's despite there being signs everywhere saying, get off your

phone. It actually makes me angry. Yeah. And so I'm

there fully engaged, because they're doing something. And

every parent should be the same. Because then when their little eyes look out of

the water and they catch your eyes and you have a smile like, oh, he's

watching. You know what? Then these kids end up not doing. They don't lift their

eyes up because they know their parents aren't looking. Yeah. Whereas every time.

And I know you're the same, I'm there, I'm engaged, I'm with him. Because I

want that. Yeah. Whereas get your phone away. Like. And I had the same

example last year, you know, during winter with soccer, and there were so many

parents that drop the kids off and then go and sit in their car. Yeah.

On their phone. Be cold. And they're on their phone. You can see that. You

can see their face illuminated up behind their windscreen. And there's a handful of

parents that are out there in the cold watching their kids. And every time a

kid turns. But there are so many parents. Just go to their. Drop the kid

and go to the car, man. For the rest of the day. So literally, think

about all the downtime that if people have got kids or

there's so much downtime that you can do that, but be intentional. Yeah.

Think about what your kids are going to remember. They're not going to remember a

lot of things, but one thing they will remember is that when you're not there,

you're not present, you're not actually giving your attention because that's all they want. That's

all they want. That's all they want. So get off your phone. It actually pisses

me off. I love it. Social movement. If you're a. Yeah. If you're a restaurant

owner, a nightclub owner, a festival organizer, whatever it is, do something awesome and make

it a no phone policy. Or if you're a human being and you know that

you're like, what I was. I'd just catch myself getting on it. Don't take it.

Yeah. Have some bloody willpower. Grow up. Because once you're out the door and. You

grow up, you don't need it. Like, you literally don't. I love it. I'm

getting angry. You are. Stop getting angry. I'm starting so positive. I

want to finish this one off. And. And this is. This is a. This is

a happy good luck story. I've titled it the Australian Way.

Okay, I've started.

And it's funny, the impact I had on my kids. I've started kicking the footy

in the street with my kids and the last couple of weeks my kids have

started riding their BMXs on the footpath. I just taught

my 5 year old how to jump off gutters. And that means he's got to

go onto the road, right? Yeah. And when I first said, hey, do you want

to kick the foot in the street? His response was literally this, what can we

do that? And I was like, oh, that's such a shame, isn't it, that kids

nowadays. Think that that's our fault too. It is. Because I've drilled into my kids,

never chase a ball on the road, which is the smart thing. Never ever chase

the ball on the road, off the road, you know, look 10 times. So I

get it. But it's also come from a little bit of fear of, you know,

someone's going to come along and take your kid. I think anyway, those sorts of

things, whatever it might be. But it's awesome that we've started

doing it. Our neighbors now, their kids now come out and play with our kids

down the street. And my neighbour and I sit in the nature strip on the

back of his ute. Sometimes we have a beer and we just have a chat

and watch the world go by and we get waves from neighbors coming past. But

the sick thing is the other night I was just like, two nights ago, they

were riding the BMX and we got a little plastic jump and they were. There

was like four of them out there, right? And they're doing jumps. And the amount

of dads that drove past and gave me that nod that.

You'Re doing something great. Well played, mate. Look at you, look at you. Out. So

you're doing it for your ego. No, no, I'm not just taking it. I know

you are, but I'm doing it. A lot of dads like, oh, that is awesome.

There's kids out in the middle of the street jumping on a bmx. And do

you see? Well, I sit down, the car wouldn't carry. Yeah. And we pull it

to the side and they get off the road, you know what I mean? And.

And they've learned how to do it too. Now park would turn and go car,

because he looks behind me and so you can just teach them safety and

those sorts of things. But I mean, how did we get there? I'm like, how

is it? This is such the Australian way, such. A simple thing, isn't it? Such

a Growing up. Yeah. It just doesn't happen. Create a sense of community. Get. Be

the one that gets your kids out in the road. Kick the footy. And you

watch, there'll be other kids that all of a sudden start coming out. The navels

will start doing it. Well, that's where we're for people. I grew up

in a court. Yeah. And we live in a court now. And it's

amazing. Like, kids are just out in the street. They always walk

past. Yeah. How good. Of course, cricket was on.

The real problem is there. Cool. We're the front of it. So some people still

fly down it. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. But yeah, the ones down the end are laughing.

Yeah. Yeah. I used to love pulling the fire. Hydrant covers off using it as

a window mate. Give the ball a bit more of a chance. I love it.

How clear with herald the when they made those stickers. Very

smart. Unreal. But yeah, I'd set that down. A great way to finish off just

the Australian way. It made me bloody happy that we are. Our kids are playing

out in the middle of the street. Getting some good nods from the neighbors driving

past. But they're connecting with the neighbors and it's bloody awesome. We need to see

more of it. More kick in the footy. More cricket in the streets. Now that.

Now that the weather's getting nicer. Dale of surfing this. Time to do it. Isn't

it amazing? Perfect time of day. Best time of year. I love it. All right,

everyone. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for another episode. Episode

369. We've loved it. Good to be back. And we

will catch you all next week. Look after yourselves.