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Yep, we're on. I. All right, everybody. Welcome back to

energetic radio, episode 373. We are

back after a cut weekend here in Melbourne. I'm joined by the one and only

Dale Sidebottom. How are you, buddy? Good bye. Yourself? Very well, thank you.

Good to be back in the bunker. It is. Hey, good to see you smiling.

Thank you. You're still radiating from the Oasis concert. I take it

seriously. That was one of the best nights of my life, to be honest. I

love that. How good's that? Oh, it's just incredible for those people that

obviously Oasis is doing their world tour. I never thought I'd get to see them.

And I love Oasis. Just. Just

the whole experience was incredible. Yeah. I think,

like, just every song I have is, people know they're good, but

just the sound quality and the lights and just everyone there is

happy. Yes. That's. I was getting around Pilgrim and I was hugging him and

Brie's like, just settled down a bit. He's so excited. And I was.

And it was like. Because we went on, we both went. It was Melbourne cup,

so good day. And just let into it us. Unbelievable. How

awesome is it when you get to those venues and you've just got 60,000 people

in unison. Yeah. All connected with each other. Loves in the air. It brings

people together. We often say in our workshops that music is incredible at bringing people

together. And exhibit A, you were hugging people left, right and center. You didn't know.

And we were the same way. We were a lot of people standing up and

just instant friends, instant mateship, instant connection,

arms around each other, anthems. It was awesome. That was

pleasant surprise because you heard that the sound in the first few gigs they played

and they sound a bit average, but by the time they got to our shores.

Oh, mate, that was sharp. That was sharp as. That was

incredible. Like, it was very nostalgic, wasn't it? Oh, it's just. Yeah,

I just made me really happy. And the smile on your face now, that's why

I brought up, like, you know what, let's bring it up because you're still beaming

for it, which is awesome. And I will be something that I'll remember forever. Yeah,

that'd probably be the last time you get to see America. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I

reckon they're just doing it for cash grab. They must have run out of money.

Oh, they'll make some money off. It's. They've sold out tours everywhere, so

it wasn't cheap. But I think it's. That's a bucket list item for

me, like, to. Yeah, go and see them was incredible. Yeah, awesome. I'm

saying I got a late call up and I was having an Aaron, but that

was the missus. The missus. It was like, yeah, dude, bucket list item going. It's

once in a lifetime. I was like, yeah. She actually said to me, go and

live life. And I was like, oh, that's elite when it comes from you. You

know what I mean? So I was like, right, I'll do it the best now.

It was an awesome weekend. It was Melbourne cup weekend. You know, we get.

We get four days off in the world somewhat. Yeah, A bit of money coming

to my bank account to pick up, which was nice. So had a pretty

profitable little weekend on horses. That was all right. But no, it was, mate, awesome

weekend. We're both sitting here smiling, so. We are. And I. I was away last

week in Mildura and Oen. I got to go up and

work with all the Malle principals, which was really cool. So,

yeah, I did three talks up there. I went up to. Got up there a

day early and drove to Oyen, which is an hour and a bit from Mildura.

A good mate that I went to university with. And I literally haven't seen

him since we finished uni. He's now the principal there. He's been trying to get

me up there for a while, but obviously it's a very long away and I

thought, I'm not coming up just for one gig. So anyway, he found out

that I was obviously coming up and it was incredible to go and see him.

Know when you obviously, you see people at uni, you don't see him for a

while, but then to see. See him leading a school now in his community,

and probably the impact he's had on all the Starbucks made me

feel like, really proud. And I also take back. And you

see different sides of people now because a lot of people our age, if

they're still in education or whatever, they're in. They're some manager role or the

leading people. Yeah, it was really nice to see. So that, that was

cool. And we love doing rural Workshops with

people just. They're just different. They're cut differently. They're my sort of people, man.

People there. But they're just good humans. They're open to everything. They look on the

bright side of life. Way more than city people, I find. Anyway.

Yeah, mate, it's awesome. I like it. And going back to the old uni crew

that you haven't seen, it goes two ways. I think 90% of them grow up

a lot more than when you last saw them. Obviously uni days are pretty wild

and we had a good time and most of them grow up pretty well, which.

And then sometimes you catch up the mates that have gone the other way and

they've started. Guy, I won't mention any names, but. People

probably about me. Geez, he hasn't grown up. Not at

all. I think they probably have many people I've met through you because obviously you've

come late to my life. You've only known each other for three years

and it's funny how many people say that. Have known you for all they go

to me, man. He was a dickhead when he was younger.

So true, mate. I wasn't mates with him when I was younger. He was dick.

But now I've come across him again, he's changed. You know what I mean? So.

So don't stress about that. A lot of people actually think you've grown up and

you've changed, which is nice. Don't stress about that. I'm well and truly aware of

what I was like. That's a tick on. You've grown up. Which is

awesome. Well, it was our three year anniversary a couple of weeks ago.

We obviously met the day that Banjo, my second son was born. Yeah.

Yeah. So three years makes it easy, doesn't it? Every time Banjo gets

three years anniversary. And it's easy because it was on his day. So. Yeah,

I know exactly when it was. So. Yeah. I still can't believe how he crossed

paths. I still can't believe you rocked up to a gig three hours after your

child gave birth in the middle of the morning. Don't talk about it too much.

Still a bit of a soft breeze out. But anyway, hey, the doors that have

opened were incredible. Right. So nearly shut one in my personal life.

Sort of a sliding doors. Hey, dude,

I. And I'm going to put my hand up here because I can't believe I

didn't actually put two and two together. Thanksgiving. Right.

What's your knowledge on Thanksgiving? Giving thanks for

something. Yeah, mine too. Right. I didn't. It's amazing the space we're

in. Right. And then I was watching a show with Mel last night,

selling sunsets of all things, but she loves it, so. That's right. Sometimes you got

to spend the quality time, so. And, and they were doing massive

Thanksgiving dinner party. Right. And. And obviously it's all about

gratitude. Right. And they have a public holiday. The fourth

Thursday. The fourth Thursday of November in every year is a public

holiday in the States brought in by Washington. And it's

purely designed so that everyone's got the day off so everyone can connect, come

together and show their appreciation, their gratitude. And they all practice gratitude in that

one day. And I was sitting there watching this show going, hang on a minute.

Shit. Is that what Thanksgiving is all about? Makes sense. It's actually

brilliant. Yeah. Because you hear growing up in movies all the time, especially American movies,

about Thanksgiving, this and that. And I just thought it was like a way of

Christmas or something With Christmas, I'll be honest with you. But it's actually got nothing

to do with it. It's all about gratitude. I like it. I like it too.

And then I started doing a bit of Wuhan with Mel. Like, how's Australia's public

holidays

before a Melbourne cup and NRL grand final? The Kings. The

Kings. There's not even our king lives in a different country. Labor Day, you know,

like politics. And I'm like, how bloody crap are we when

our public. I mean, I love them, but our public holidays are all about those

things. And the states of all places have a public holiday around

gratitude and mindse and in essence, I guess connection to mental health.

Right, Right. But is it. Is that just a one off that people just do

it for that one day? I know it brings awareness to it and allows them

to practice and get together, but I just don't like all these

days. Yeah. It seems to be a day for everything. And I get it, it's

bringing awareness. But is it just something you do? Like it was recently

World Teachers Day. So do. Oh, well done, teachers. Or like, are you

okay? Day this one day that we look out for each other, buy cupcakes or.

I guess, but I guess we need those one days, as you said, to put

things in the spotlight, in the limelights, to get the brain, the seeds

being planted. Yeah. And I guess anything you might. I think it's a fluff. I

think it's like a fad diet or. Yeah, I get you like. Or a challenge

at a gym where everyone comes and goes hard for a certain period of time.

Once it's done. They go back to their old ways. Yeah, I just think those

days are like that. I know that's my personal opinion and I. Sorry if I

offend anyone. No, you won't offend anyone. But I reckon you might be able to.

You might. At least now we're starting to teach it in schools on a regular

basis, which is awesome because then I did a deep dive on gratitude, right. And

it's funny, we in our workshops, we'll say, yeah, we're going to practice some gratitude.

We know it's a buzzword at the moment. I did a bit of a deep

dive into it. You know, that's over 300,000 years old. The

term. Like, you know, gratitude, it's been around for ages. It's been around forever. You

know, I mean like Aztecsia and Egypt. Egyptians.

So it's incredible once you start getting into it about how long that notion of

being grateful for has been around for 300,000 years. And yet little

old Australia. I know we're youngish still, but yeah, I don't know, maybe I'd be

all for not copying the States, but I'll be all for bringing

some sort of. Because are you okay? Day is not about gratitude. You know what

I mean? It's like checking in and checking in on each other. I don't know,

I kind of like it when I did a deep dive. Into it, like, what

did you call it? A gratitude day. Yeah, but that's not going to get much,

is it? I don't know. Don't want to copy the States. No.

But I like Thanksgiving. It's a simple name for it now that I understand it

more. Anyway, I'm 44 years old and I literally only learned last night

exactly the meaning behind Thanksgiving. I've seen that in the American movies and I thought

I'd bring it up today in the podcast. I'm 40 and I've just learned it

then, so. Yeah, obviously. And Mel next me. She was also like. I thought it

was more of a Christmas thing. Yeah, yeah. Good on them, good on you, Stones.

But well done for good. Deep dive into it as well, mate. And if you

listen to us in the Australian government, feel free to throw another public holiday and

call it. No, don't just be happy for what you've got. A public holiday now

you're in a business.

That's great. I had some more time with the kids. It's awesome.

Random question that notice what are your thoughts? I love. I know, you know

thoughts on music in the house. I love it. Love It. Why?

I think it allows you to form a bond with your kids

and it gives them an idea of. I think music shapes people

and it gives a way to articulate sort of how people operate

and what they think and what sort of music they like. But it also is

a mood enhancer. Like, we know that and like one of the most intentional

things we are, particularly in our workshops, is when we're doing an activity, we play

certain songs. Why? Because we know that adds to the experience. Yeah,

it's exactly the same at home. We do watch tv,

but I'm all for minimizing that and having music on all

the time. Yeah, you're spot on. It's. I've done a few social experiments in

my joint where sometimes the kids are a little bit off chops or they're a

little bit crazy, or they're a little bit, you know, even like laser a bit

down, no energy, and you turn the TV off, whatever, and you put some music

on and you play some beats. You play certain songs and

in the space of 30 seconds, the mood changes, lifts,

it enhances. Everyone is having a good time. You're bopping around, you connect with each

other. You know, you play in the car on the way to school and all

of a sudden everyone's singing their favorite. So on the way to school and they're

going to the car. Yeah. It's incredible, isn't it? I brought it up because I've

been listening, I love to listen to Huberman Lab, Right? Yep. And they've

just Not a brand new discovery, but a late, like a pretty recent discovery about

a thing called binaural beats. Right. And

it's. All the top universities are all studying it. Right. It's all been proven,

which is insane. And it's a, It's a new discovery around audio

frequencies and how they've been linked to heavily reducing stress,

anxiety and an overactive brain. Yeah. Right. So I'm going to start thinking about your

kids, you know, like studying that. Yeah. The use of it. And it's certain you

can download the apps, you can do things. And they play two different frequencies in

each year at the same time. And in as little as seven minutes, the

impacts are huge on relieving stress,

anxiety and an overactive brain. So could you play that like on a

sound bar? I imagine so, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. We'll try that. Yeah. That's

what I mean. That's why I thought I'd bring it up. And it's. I said

all the universities are studying it. It's Absolutely massive. No drugs. You know, it's now

an alternative to. For kids taking drugs for anxiety and those sorts of things.

And like, we go to so many schools and there's so many young people with,

you know, anxiety in inverted brackets. And I

wonder if they could. If this is real, does work. You know, the headphones they

wear. Seven minutes of it, come get them back in the classrooms, whatever

it might be. Yeah, reset them. So anyway, mate, binaural beats.

Okay. And you can look it up and it might help other people out there

as well. It might. And. And mate, I'll be honest, like, I think Hooverman's. He

only brings about scientific research. Like, he's not just. No, he doesn't

make it up at all. His reputation is insane. And I

love music. We love music. We know it works. And I thought, man, that's. The

abnormal beats is something you might want to look into. Dale. Yeah, no, no. Well,

mate, like, the two songs that I go back to is Darude

Sandstorm and TV Rock Flaunted. They're the one to come.

Oh, go on it. Florida, Florida. I love it.

My. Our favorite song is if Tibby. If Tibby Arnold listened. This one is

by Dirty. Got me onto a song called By Dirt. Now every day my. My

kids like, dad, can we play by Dirt? But the messages in it are

very wholesome. That's very true. So I bloody love it. No, no, that was. I.

I enjoyed that story too. I don't know we're going to talk about this, but

around a song that means something to you because of

the lyrics or whatever. And obviously you're doing a bit of work with leadership group

around psychological safety and how so much. And

obviously our good mate Timmy Arnold, who we're starting a foundation with, but also

I grew up with in Shepparton, director of Free

agency Teaching and education. Yeah, he does in his

interviews. And I thought that was pretty cool. I think it's a really cool way

to interview people. He gave me a few ways to, you know, you ask your

stock standard questions, but what an awesome way to interview someone is.

Yeah. What's a song that resonates with you? And tell us why it

resonates with you and you instantly find out a bit about the character of the

person, what their values are. Like, what

we'll go back to before when you ask, do you listen to music as a

family? Well, yes, it's exactly that reason. Because you

can teach them. Obviously. We've had a lot of Oasis on lately,

but there's certain songs like By Phil Collins and Billy Ocean that my

three year old loves. So we listen to like Phil Collins in the Air

tonight. That's the first one. And then Caribbean Queen by Billy

Ocean. And we do the drums and like, there's just things that we've got a

bond and like, it makes you happy. Yeah. And I guess in their mind, it

sets them. Right. Yeah, they know. They know. And this is my routine. Yeah, it

sets them. And this is our connection with each other. And also gets me out

of the car in a slightly different mood to what I got in the car.

Yeah. Because of those friends. Well, that's what we do. And then I drove up,

put Darude Sandstorm on and that's harder, man. Sonny. Operate

a little bit differently. Our brains are probably wired a little bit

differently. But yeah, I totally agree with what you're just saying there

around that song. But I also. What a great way to allow people to share

and feel safe because they're talking about things that are quite personal to them.

But it's like when we do gratitude picture is something. It's masked because

the song is the way they're delivering it. It's not them just saying. All right,

what's five things in your life that mean something to. Because that's awkward, that's hard,

that's not something comfortable. But through a song, it allows you to be vulnerable

in a safe way. Yeah. No, I love it. Speaking about connection, those

sorts of things, I'm reading an awesome book at the moment. It's all about interconnectivity.

It's going to sound a bit fluffy, I know, but it's all about how

incredibly connected we are through, like, you know, radio waves

in the, in, you know, in the air. There's natural radio waves flowing through the

air and people that don't believe. It's like, well, hang on a minute, mate. How

do you think your phone calls fly through the air? The rate of knots and,

you know, those sorts of bits and pieces people think, you know, Reiki doesn't work

where you can pass energy between each other. Anyway, this book is all about interconnectivity.

Is it Reiki or Reiki? Reiki. Is it Reiki? Reiki? I'm pretty

sure. Not often I can pick someone up on, but I'll take that one, thank

you. That's good by you. I'm pretty sure it's Reiki. And

they, they did this whole studies on things like schools of bluefish and

like gazelles and migrating animals, and there's like a school of bluefish

One mile long, right? And they set up these atomic cameras

underwater. And the blue fish from the first fish, the next fish

is quicker than the sound of light, you know, I mean, that's how quick they

dart left, they dart right. That's how connected we are through

frequencies that are running through things. Same with migrating animals and

gazelles and whatnot. And now they're on humans and about how human

nature massively impacts. So surrounding yourself with the right people,

you know, I mean, if you're in a room with someone who's in a bit

of a shitty mood, chances are it's definitely going to flatten your mood. And I've

never really thought of it like that, going, oh, yes. But it's not just the

fact that you step on an eggshells, you're right about it. It's actually the

frequency, the energy that they're giving off. And it just got me

thinking about the importance of surrounding yourself with good people. And I rewinded my weekend,

had an awesome weekend, made some, caught up with a while and

left feeling bloody awesome. You know what I mean? It was. It was sick. It

was unreal. And then I think about teams I would do a lot of work

with, leadership teams. The importance of getting rid of one bit of dead wood or.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that's where. Lemon suckers. Yeah. Like, if we

really get stuck into this, like, really get stuck into

this notion of it and you. And you believe in it.

The power of how one bad egg or one person can really

alter, you know, the feeling amongst the whole team. And yet we

stick with it for so long. I know. I don't know. That's why you see,

like, perfect example, I think, for people out there. Watch footy. Stephen King, what.

What he's done, I think, going into Melbourne. Yeah. Like, he got rid of all

the coaching staff and he's brought in all, like, completely new

coaching staff. He's got rid of Petrakova and Oliver, who were

two of the top five paid players. Want to be there. Well, they're two of

the top five players in the league, so essentially they should be great leaders and.

But he didn't feel that they're the right fit, so he just got rid of

them. Yeah. You know, a lot of people probably wouldn't have the courage to do

that. And I just think. I think it's incredible.

I'm really excited. I don't go for Melbourne. Yeah. But I just love the way

he's come in and he hasn't done it in like a Malice way or things.

He's just like, I don't think you'll fit what we're going to create, you know,

and so he's got that vision of creating a team, a culture. A culture, you

know, and you look at, obviously I'm talking a lot about footy, but look at

Brisbane Lions through Chris Fagan that he makes it not about himself.

Craig McCrae makes it not about himself. Two of the probably best coaches, it's

because they're creating a culture and a team and that's incredible

because it amplifies everyone isn't just about them, you know, And I,

I love that. And that's why great teams have a

leader that allows it to be a team, not. Not just that

leader making about themselves. And you've even got to do it as a parent with

your kids. And that might sound harsh, but you've got to be a little

bit intentional with who you want your kids hanging out with as well, you know

what I mean? Like, because not just habits and the way they speak and, but

it's their energies and the way they treat other people and you know, how they

knuckle down and how they relax and the energy they give off and those sort

of things. And you'll get. When you start picking schools or when you go to

schools, your kids got to write down the kids they want in their classrooms next

year. Yeah, we've already done it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting we're doing at the

moment and your kid might want, might want one kid. Like, man, I know you

just dick around with that kid the whole time, but yeah, this whole notion, the

book I'm reading about interconnectivity is blowing my mind a little bit and it's funny

how you don't put two and two together. Like, obviously there is a shitload of

radio waves flowing through the air, how much it does impact on us. But yeah,

I know when I walk in here and you're up and about, I honestly get

up and about a bit too. You know what I mean? Or if we've had

a shitty day, then it flows on. But yeah, I don't know, it just, it

was interesting. My turn now. So it's not quiz today. We've got

the five second rule. So got five questions for

you and you need to name three. Oh, here you go. He's even got this

little Tommy, he's. Like a. I've got a gazoo thing. So I'm going to read

out what you need to name and you've got five Seconds for it. Okay,

so how many things do I have to name? There's going to be. Well, I'll

tell you in the question, but they're all three. All right, so give the heads

up now. Okay, here we go. And you've got five seconds to do it. Obviously

the name of the game. No, it's not. Let's go. Name three types of pasta.

Spaghetti, fettuccine and rigatoni. Well done. One out of one.

Tease. You're better at a quiz than this. Come on. Name three things in

a kitchen knife. Spatula and a fry

pan. Well done. Let's do this every week. I

did pick two easy ones.

Name three saltwater fish, flathead,

a shark. And a gummy shark. As a shark's fish.

I don't know. I hope so. Don't know. I would go cuda. No, you'd

force things up anyway. 7. Well, if the things in the water, you

would have got that. Would have got that. Yeah. But anyway, name three things you

need for a barbecue. Tongs. Oil and gas,

baby. Very good. And the last one. Name three

famous business people. Dale Sidebottom, Stephen

Rules. And Steve Jobs.

No 2 there. Definitely not me.

That's a bit different. I'm more confident of that than the. Than the odd Chris.

But I went live. I was kind of looking forward to coming and redeem myself

from the Chris that was like. I thought, I need to do something. 4 out

of 10. I went 2 out of 10. I was like, lost the heels. Jesus

Christ. Yeah, I just thought I'd mix it up for you, mate. Build your confidence.

Well done. Five out of five. I love that. One last thing for us, life

there was while I was around the week, I had a lot of our mates

and parents and just a little parenting tip out there. I know a lot of

young people love video games, right. And they're hooked on video

games. Like. Yeah, I'm talking like kids between, you know, let's go 8 to

14, whatever it might be. And what I find is

some of those kids don't. They're not super resilient out in life. We come

across them a lot right now. Workshops. Not super resilient. Device

dependent. Device dependent. Great way of putting it. I love that. I just made that

and that was brilliant. And I'm sure there's so many people listening that their kids

are probably device dependent. 100. We see it like when

kids get particular. Like, I know it's a thing, but like, we're quite

loud and they just shut down. Yeah. And they just need

to go into this device. Yeah, they're still in the room, they're still

hearing of it. They're so not present with anything else besides that

device. Yeah, it's crazy. It is crazy, isn't it?

Anyway, he's. His kid was having a bit of a meltdown,

just like playing some sport. He couldn't. He struggled the first time he tried, had

a bit of a meltdown. And the way that he explained it to his kid,

he brought it back to what resonated with him was about his video games and,

and actually went and went. That's, that's, that was really impressive to witness that

how you, you, you connected with him on his level. And he simply. When he

goes, oi, oi. You know, when you're playing X game, like whatever the game is,

he goes, did you give up in level one? When? The first, first time you

got that game, did you give up? Nah. Why not? Because. I don't

know. Because I enjoyed it and, and I know I can. I know I could

pass it eventually. I can pass that level. Exactly right. So you died, you respawned,

you died, you respawned, you kept going, you got to level two. It was hard.

Did you give up? No. Why? Because I knew eventually I'd get

it. And he literally went, mate, life is no different because you're going to

suck the first time you do this, but it's going to teach you some skills

that you'll take through to the next chapter, your life, which is next year, whatever

it might be, or the next level. And I could just see the

light go ding in his kid. And because it was related

to something about what he was into, the kid stuck it out.

Then the kid was like, okay, that's fair enough. And I just went, man, that

was a one. Parenting, like, that was incredible parenting.

So me included might have got frustrated and gone, I don't know about it, or

you give up easily or whatever it might be. But for him to go that

way and think, you know what, I'm gonna relate this something to your. And I'm

reckon there'd be so many parents out there listening where kids love playing video games

but find some life challenges pretty hard. And that's a way

you can potentially look at it and go, hey, why don't you look at it

this way instead of the way you're currently framing. It or look at it. What,

Whatever they do. Like, if they like building, if they like Lego, if they like

reading, if they like drawing. Because all of those skills

take time to Learn. Yeah. And there's all different levels in them. I think when

you can. This is a big thing on obviously when I used to start out

a lot of like gamification. Yeah. So how game mechanics

suck kids in particularly through the narrative and then also through like

leveling up badges, scores like that instrument

motivation and so yeah, I totally resonate with that.

Particularly around kids like using. Finding out the one thing that gets

them lit up inside. Using that talk. But gamifying

it. Relating back to the topic. Yeah. I love that. A few weeks ago we

spoke about being a treasure hunter. Yeah. And that links in with that massively that

he understood his kid and went, this is what you, what

you treasure in life. So I'm going to relate life to your treasure

and let you see it and feel it in a different way. It bloody worked.

Yeah, well it would though because you straight away they're interested.

They're talking about the thing that they weren't good at but they're really passionate about

they worked hard at. So they already feel proud about that and then through that

they can relate to something they haven't done well and they've given up. It's such

a great way to do it, isn't it? Yeah. So any, anyone out there, particularly

if anyone's struggling, giving up or self doubting or talking negatively

themselves, find the one thing that that person loves and go through the

levels of that and then relate it back to the thing that they're not enjoying.

Bang. Very easy, mate. That's me dad. Gonna sign

off for the day. It's. The weather is sunshiny outside. 20 odd degrees today.

Thanks for listening ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy the week ahead. Look after yourselves

and surround yourselves with the right people please and

throw some tunes onto the house. What was it? What was the thing again?

Binaural beats. Binaural beats. Binaural beats. I'll put someone

now and see if it calms me down. Yeah, awesome. See everyone.